The Central Hub for DSM Community and Information

For 1990-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, and Galant VR-4 Owners. This is where the DSM platform history is documented and archived. Log in to help us in our mission, and to remove most ads from the browsing experience.

max boost from 16g with stock headstuds.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Man I love e85, dont have to worry about crappy gas.

There is supposed to be an e85 station opening within 15 miles of my house in March of next year. I'm excited about the possibilities.
 
45psiWTF I did not even think that was possible. The highest I have had mine was 33psi and it did not like it very much. 29-30psi it seems pretty happy at. I would be interested in a log at 45psi on a 16g did not think it was possible.

+1....
 
Probably at 3K. Which doesn't count. That's just boost spike ;) .

LOL, yea it does on a 16g!! He has no wastegate and the flapper welded shut. Along with a lot of porting. It spikes real high but since it does it holds high boost levels for longer periods.

If I spike my 16g to 32-34psi it will fall to about 26psi by 7krpm. If I spike it to around 28psi it will fall to 22psi by redline.
 
I'm running 22psi on the stock 7-bolt head studs and gasket. At that boost pressure, on the stock SMIC, I'm hitting about 34lbs/min at 7k with no knock. It's been this way for about 2 years and I haven't had any problems. With your situation, your limitation is going to be your 550cc injectors. At an IDC of 80%, assuming a SG of 0.76 for 93 octane fuel, AFR of 11:1, you'll be able to support about 31.5lbs/min. At an IDC of 100%, which I don't recommend and the same assumptions, you can support 39.5lbs/min of airflow.

If you shoot for a max IDC of 80%, assuming a similar flow as my setup, you will hit the 80% IDC before you reach the limit of the head studs. Keep in mind, if your tune sucks, you could very easily lift the head or trash the HG.

As for the SAFC, can you post a 3rd gear pull from 2.5k to redline, logging knock, IDC, TPS and RPM? Also, post up all your SAFC settings, such as TPS trigger points, Ne Points and corresponding correction factors, etc. -18% is the mathematical baseline to hit the 2.1g/rev target AFR of 9.5:1, so you are running rich. We can probably lean that out a little.
 
...I'd love to as soon as I fix my current problem...You should come out and show me how to tune with the afc I def. pay you I need hands on experience. I'm not good at reading and then doing I need to see someone do it and you're only 1hr 20min away.:)
 
Like others pointed out, its all about the cylinder pressure.
The boost alone doesnt equate to any specific cylinder pressure, its all a combination of how much boost, timing, knock etc.... But basically knock can make things ugly real fast especially when your nearing the limits. With just a SAFC for tuning, you MAY need really good octane and/ or meth injection to get 20psi with the kind of timing you will be getting if you install larger injectors. (I.e. 650s)
 
Yea I'm going to go with 850s with a key driver chip. But my turbo I just installed is blown so Im really pissed. Well gota buy another. BY 16g hello 50 trim..
 
Add Value - Be Respectful - No Trolling - No Misinformation - Participate Often!
Support Vendors who Support the DSM Community

Latest Classifieds

  • For sale 2g 2G Mishimoto Radiator & Fan Shroud
    2G Mishimoto Radiator & Fan Shroud $200 + shipping and paypal feesYou must be registered to...
    • jersygsx
    • Updated:
    • Expires
  • For sale 2g 2G Power Window Switches ( tested and hardware included )
    2G Power Window Switches $55 + shipping and paypal fees* Tested 6/2/26 * Hardware included *...
    • jersygsx
    • Updated:
    • Expires
  • For sale VIRGIN 4G63 6-BOLT TURBO HEAD
    Came off a virgin stock AWD Auto 1G DMS (91), also have matching block and crank which are also...
    • The_Partout_Spot
    • Updated:
    • Expires
  • For sale 1G DSM 4G63 6-BOLT TIMING COVER
    Used, see condition in photos. Buyer covers shipping / fees.
    • The_Partout_Spot
    • Updated:
    • Expires
  • For sale Garage clean out
    Changing setups on the car and getting rid of some stuff as well that's been laying around. Will...
    • 92GSXtacy
    • Updated:
    • Expires
Back
Top