LS-1 MAF translator vs ARC-2/ VPC

[eclipse2via]

Sorry about the hijack

 

[TheObiJuan]

Originally posted by SOURCE1064
I just order the ramcharger MAF translator. Can I use this SLP MAS?

http://www.proformance-motorsports.com/camaro/intake/Mass-Air-Sensors-98-00.html

or this

http://www.proformance-motorsports.com/camaro/intake/Mass-Air-Sensors-01-03.html

The difference between the two is the first is a 98-00 and the secibd 01-03. Which one would be best to get

it depends on the method you wish to use.
what turbo do you have?
my br20g has a 3" inlet. so i will use the 3" maf from a LT1 or Impalla SS for the pull through method.
the larger turbos can benifit from the use of a 3.3" (85mm) maf.
what method are you going to use?

 

[SOURCE1064]

Originally posted by TheObiJuan


it depends on the method you wish to use.
what turbo do you have?
my br20g has a 3" inlet. so i will use the 3" maf from a LT1 or Impalla SS for the pull through method.
the larger turbos can benifit from the use of a 3.3" (85mm) maf.
what method are you going to use?

I have a 60-1 turbo with a 4" inlet. Does it matter which year one I got?

 

[TheObiJuan]

i would go for the ls6 maf descreened.
or any larger gm maf sensor.
the 6.0 gm trucks have the same i believe.

the granatelli and slp 85mm mafs are more expensive alternatives.
the slp maf has electronics that comes tuned for the LS1 though and that might interfere with the DSM translator.

 

[TheObiJuan]

thought i would add this. its from the LS1tech.com webiste. JimmyBlue is talking about modifying the MAF for LS1's.

Increasing MAF diameter and/or
"smoothness" reduces -one piece
of- the intake tract airflow
resistance. It's not considerered
to be the most significant piece.
But is one that's a "freebie", so
it's popular.

Removing the screen helps the
"smoothness" (the micro-turbulence
created by the honeycomb and its
internal drag). It may (or not)
affect the distribution of airflow
at high flows (the screen's restriction
distributes airflow more evenly across
its face and thus through the MAF).
This seems to be a non-problem to most
people. Leaving the screen in retains
one last "safety net" for mystery chunks.

Increasing the diameter in place
(like porting the stock MAF)
without adjusting the calibration
affects the airflow measurement
scaling (accuracy) as the air that
cools the sense resistors is now a
different fraction of total airflow.
This tends to make a lean mixture
and an under-reporting of airflow
(used as an engine load indicator
by the automatic transmission
control code). Lean mixture may
help or hurt, repending on other
engine factors (bolt-ons, year /
PCM settings). Part-throttle leaner
may feel "snappier", but same lean-out
at WOT may knock. If the car started
out rich, this might magically make it
right on. That's where a lot of the
performance gain may be found, more
than the incremental airflow improvement.
You just have to try it to see.

Sometimes you wish you didn't see what
you saw (like when the ported MAF messes
with your automatic). Might leave the MAF
porting part until after you have the
ability to compensate for its effects.
Get a junk MAF and cobble on that, mix-
and-match the ends with your existing
MAF meter core and learn what your
car likes.

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by TheObiJuan
i would go for the ls6 maf descreened.
or any larger gm maf sensor.
the 6.0 gm trucks have the same i believe.

the granatelli and slp 85mm mafs are more expensive alternatives.
the slp maf has electronics that comes tuned for the LS1 though and that might interfere with the DSM translator.

This sensor will NOT work on the 4 cylinder application. Aftermarket sensors will not work correctly either.
Mike

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by TheObiJuan
i would go for the ls6 maf descreened.
or any larger gm maf sensor.
the 6.0 gm trucks have the same i believe.

the granatelli and slp 85mm mafs are more expensive alternatives.
the slp maf has electronics that comes tuned for the LS1 though and that might interfere with the DSM translator.

This sensor will NOT work on the 4 cylinder application. Aftermarket sensors will not work correctly either.
Mike

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by TheObiJuan
i would go for the ls6 maf descreened.
or any larger gm maf sensor.
the 6.0 gm trucks have the same i believe.

the granatelli and slp 85mm mafs are more expensive alternatives.
the slp maf has electronics that comes tuned for the LS1 though and that might interfere with the DSM translator.

This sensor will NOT work on the 4 cylinder application. Aftermarket sensors will not work correctly either.
Mike

 

[BoostinAWD]

So will any gm v6 mas sensor work for this? I found one that looks identical to the pictures you guys have shown but it has a screen on it.

Will this work?

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[Ramchargers]

That one is good! (You can remove the screen if you like)
Mike

 

[SOURCE1064]

I'm a bit confused. Should I get a stock V6 MAS or a LS1 or LS6 MAS also does the year matter. My goal hp wise is to get about 500 whp. I'm running a large turbo 60-1 with a 4" turbo inlet and I have a fully built engine?

Thanks,

 

[Ramchargers]

Don't know how I got 3 sorry
Mike

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by SOURCE1064
I'm a bit confused. Should I get a stock V6 MAS or a LS1 or LS6 MAS also does the year matter. My goal hp wise is to get about 500 whp. I'm running a large turbo 60-1 with a 4" turbo inlet and I have a fully built engine?

Thanks,

The LS6 will NOT work with this unit. I would use the 3.5" LS1 from a 97-99 F-Body. I have guys in the 9's with those no problem
MIke

 

[natedogg]

Hey, Mike. I've read this thread and its brothers on dsmtalk, teamnabr, and 3si. You and Bob have done a hell of a job putting this together and answering all of the reocurring questions. My hat's off to you. I ordered my translator a few days ago.

The only question I have for you is how the hell you pulled off such a great price for this incredible piece of engineering?

 

[Formz]

Originally posted by BoostinAWD
So will any gm v6 mas sensor work for this? I found one that looks identical to the pictures you guys have shown but it has a screen on it.

So the 3.1L and 3.4L v6 MAS will work?

EDIT: Are there other motor sizes that will work too?

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by Formz


So the 3.1L and 3.4L v6 MAS will work?

EDIT: Are there other motor sizes that will work too?

I posted the part numbers we recommend. Do a search and cross the numbers
Mike

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by natedogg
Hey, Mike. I've read this thread and its brothers on dsmtalk, teamnabr, and 3si. You and Bob have done a hell of a job putting this together and answering all of the reocurring questions. My hat's off to you. I ordered my translator a few days ago.

The only question I have for you is how the hell you pulled off such a great price for this incredible piece of engineering?

If it is too cheap we can raise the price. Bob and I have been doing this a long time. He writes the software and does everything in house. We were car guys before we were in business and understand the value of a good part at a fair price. On all our products we have always tried to keep prices low when we could. We have to make a few dollars of course this is how we live. If you like this deal wait till I post up the rest of the new DSM parts soon. The Scanmaster, the new tubular header, billet fuel pressure regs, fuel pumps, Timing tuner with nitrous control, plus more will be a start.
Mike Licht

 

[Formz]

For EVERYONE trying to find out what GM cars this fits, click THIS LINK.

 

[BoostinAWD]

Well I just won that mas sensor I showed earlier for $34
Now to buy the translator. Dang now I need to sell my 2g mas sensor I just bought .

 

[ttawd3s]

Hey Mike don't be stengy with the mods !!! The 3/S guys are behind you too !! Id be REALLY interested in all those things you just menationed for a 3/S, but the one I really want in my hand is the volt blaster.

If your going to make that stuff for the DSM, you may as well make it for the 3/S too, but I understang that tubular headers etc. aren't the easest things to make for a 3/S. But railmount FPR, volt blaster, nitrous timing tool, and a scan master would be sweet for the 3/S !!

My friends has a lot of you guys GN parts on his car and has nothing but good to say about your products, and that's the reason I contacted Bob about making the translator for the 3/S ( I was unaware that he was already making a translator for the DSM ).

Keep up the good work, and don't forget about the 3/S guys !!

 

[eclipse2via]

Originally posted by Ramchargers


I posted the part numbers we recommend. Do a search and cross the numbers
Mike

I've been looking at GMpartsdirect(no pic's). Do you know if those MAF's are just the sensor portion or do they include the ends to couple onto?

 

[natedogg]

Originally posted by Ramchargers


If it is too cheap we can raise the price. Bob and I have been doing this a long time. He writes the software and does everything in house. We were car guys before we were in business and understand the value of a good part at a fair price. On all our products we have always tried to keep prices low when we could. We have to make a few dollars of course this is how we live. If you like this deal wait till I post up the rest of the new DSM parts soon. The Scanmaster, the new tubular header, billet fuel pressure regs, fuel pumps, Timing tuner with nitrous control, plus more will be a start.
Mike Licht

Sounds like I'll be doing more business with you guys in the future.

 

[SOURCE1064]

Originally posted by Ramchargers

The LS6 will NOT work with this unit. I would use the 3.5" LS1 from a 97-99 F-Body. I have guys in the 9's with those no problem
MIke

Mike thanks, I just picked up a 3.5" LS1 one from GMpartsdirect.

 

[hdswanny]

thanks for the link FormZ

 

[Formz]

np