LS-1 MAF translator vs ARC-2/ VPC

[peregrine]

oh man this is getting exciting!! cant wait to try it out.

 

[draculia]

well, this question seems to keep getting put aside. are there 2 different ones for the dsm to cover both 1g and 2g harness differences? one of the ramchargers guys said the 3kgt was calibrated differently, so that's not an option.

 

[TheObiJuan]

see this thread.
it will probably answer most of your questions.
http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd...ms/showthread.php?threadid=81175&goto=newpost

 

[nine5raptor]

link doesn't work...

 

[Ramchargers]

OK I am back I was in the hospital for a few days unexpectedly but am getting back up to speed just got home today. The factory GM sensors have rolled lips on them so a hose can be clamped to them as they are factory installed that way. We have not sourced the correct 2G plug as of today but should have that hammed out in a few days. We SHOULD begin shipping Tues. For you guys that have 2G's or 3S cars we WILL have the correct plug for you (don't make this sucks type posts I was sick) hopefully in a few days but until then you will have to splice it in.
Mike Licht

 

[xinfiniter]

woohoo.....i think im going to wait until you guys can supply the plug....Thanks man, would I be able to order one now so I know that I will get one or just wait until you have the plug thing figured out??

 

[draculia]

great to hear you're feeling better mike. please post up here when you have the 2g plug thing sorted out, and then you'll get my business too.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

Mike,
When using an LT1 MAF, do we need just the maf or do we need the ends as well? Do you recommend getting rid of the maf screens as well?

Thanks,
Mike

 

[dsmturboawd]

haha ok, so i ordered this off ramchargers.com two nights ago and now youre telling me that its the wrong plug? what am i supposed to do with this thing when it gets here? how will i make my 2g plug become adaptable to this?

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

get a 1G plug harness and splice

 

[Motohead1]

Ok for those wanting to do the Sameri method of install so as to have it in the cockpit will a wire pinout come with the unit so i can informativly hack away.

 

[dsmturboawd]

Originally posted by NOSLO2PT0
get a 1G plug harness and splice

where would i go about getting one of those?

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

someone parting a 1G out? junkyard?

 

[dsmturboawd]

do all the wires match up? ive heard of going from 1g to 2g plugs, never 2g to 1g. is there a vfaq or something on how to go from a 2g plug to a 1g plug?

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

just reverse the instructions. all the wire colors are the same. Just take 1G wire color and splice into appropriate 2G wire color.

 

[dsmturboawd]

i cannot find this plug online to save my life.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

Then maybe you don't need one. The 2G MAS becomes a restriction right around the 450whp mark. Are you close? If not, leave it alone and wait until it becomes a restriction.

 

[dsmturboawd]

i cant think of anyone on this board with 450whp thats buying this. the 2g mas is a restriction at any amt of hp. i have about 250hp and the gm mas will give me ~5-10hp. why not get this. its way cheeper than a safc too.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

At ANY hp level? A few guys have gone 10's with a 2G MAS. This is more of something to get when you are close to overrunning the 2G MAS. I think everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon cuz it's something new and cool, not something you can actually take advantage of. But, i digress.

 

[dsmturboawd]

never said how much of a restriction it was. its alot more restrictive than the gm one. cant argue that. why not get it?

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

How about buying things you NEED first? But then again, you may be one of those people that will forever be stuck in the 14's, so who knows.

 

[jw]

I would like to hear more from people running the MAF w/ blow through in a turbo application. Seeing in excess of 300F on the intake track is not unheard of and how that is going to affect the MAF and tuning.

 

[xinfiniter]

dsmturboawd mike said that he is going to ship all the orders on tuesday so, I suppose if you call him monday and you cancel your order or tell him to wait on it until he gets the 2G plug worked out, unless you want to do the 1G plug conversion.....just a thought

 

[Tallen]

Originally posted by NOSLO2PT0
Then maybe you don't need one. The 2G MAS becomes a restriction right around the 450whp mark. Are you close? If not, leave it alone and wait until it becomes a restriction.

your missing the point...you can is this to TUNE YOUR CAR...CHEAPLY

 

[DrZiplok]

Originally posted by jw
I would like to hear more from people running the MAF w/ blow through in a turbo application. Seeing in excess of 300F on the intake track is not unheard of and how that is going to affect the MAF and tuning. [/QUOTE

As has been pointed out before, you would want to go talk to the Turbo Buick guys about this, as they've been doing it for some time now.

My impression is that it's considered quite OK.

Bear in mind with all these discussions that while the application to the DSM is new, the techniques surrounding the use of the MAF & translator have been reasonably well established, even by our somewhat pedantic standards. 8)