LS-1 MAF translator vs ARC-2/ VPC

[yhype]

I still have a question about putting the box in-car. Will this be possible? And what would be a good second AFC so i can control it in more than 5 points?

 

[GVR-4]

Originally posted by Ramchargers


If it is too cheap we can raise the price. Bob and I have been doing this a long time. He writes the software and does everything in house. We were car guys before we were in business and understand the value of a good part at a fair price. On all our products we have always tried to keep prices low when we could. We have to make a few dollars of course this is how we live. If you like this deal wait till I post up the rest of the new DSM parts soon. The Scanmaster, the new tubular header, billet fuel pressure regs, fuel pumps, Timing tuner with nitrous control, plus more will be a start.
Mike Licht

Mike, you guys rule. That header sounds awesome. Keep us all posted on your other products.

dp

 

[j.d.roost]

Whoot! Ordered mine today. Now, to keep the safc or not....... I will have it on the day I get it and be datalogging. I will post logs and g-tec ( for what its worth) results(before and after).
jd

 

[j.d.roost]

Btw. Does ramchargers have anything to do with the a/fx ramchargers from th 60's?

 

[jsigone]

ok, I just got done reading this thread and I have a couple questions.

1) how will the unit work in tuning ND 720s'? I already have AFC that i use for these injectors. Will tunin it still be the same.

2) I have a 90 GST with the UIC, short routed becasue I have no ABS unit. It's a straight pipe from the IC to the TB. Now can I put the mas right next to the TB? I was thinking, making it so that the MAF is about 1" from the TB, making it look somewhat more cleaner then having it sit between the BOV and TB.

3) The two lines that route into the side of the intake tube, can those be plugged off and just put a filter on the turbo itself w/o piping? Ar do I still need the intake?

 

[highbooster]

I have (4) 160lb injectors. I dont have a chance of tuning these monsters with the translator do i Mike

P.S Thanks eclipse2via !

 

[natedogg]

Originally posted by jsigone


3) The two lines that route into the side of the intake tube, can those be plugged off and just put a filter on the turbo itself w/o piping? Ar do I still need the intake?

Don't connect the filter directly to the turbo. The radiator fan will blow hot air directly into it.

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by j.d.roost
Btw. Does ramchargers have anything to do with the a/fx ramchargers from th 60's?

Actually Yes! We are those guys.
from our about Ramchargers page:

Ramchargers has a rich racing heritage starting in the 60's where the candy striped cars of the 'Ramchargers' haunted their competitors on drag strips across the nation. Ten time National Champions, the Ramchargers were the first group in drag racing to win titles in all three professional categories. This group of engineers, mechanics and veteran drivers was as professional a team of high performance experts to ever prepare a car for the quarter mile run. One look and you get the message that performance is more than a past time or even a business, it's nearly a religion and certainly a labor of love. This vital formula which blends Ramchargers candy striped cars and knowledge of performance parts and accessories produced the first 6-second funny car run in 1970. We also made (the first 8 and 7-second runs!) The list of Ramchargers vehicles include Super Stocks, A/FX Cars, Top Fuel Dragsters, Fuel Funny Cars, as well as the sponsored team cars. The same attention to detail and knowledge of high performance parts that produced so many track records and 10 national championships can now be put to use by you to help you attain your performance goals.

I was not part of the company then but some of the guys are still here. I have know them for almost 20 years however and am proud to now be a part of drag racings history.
Thanks for asking,
Mike Licht

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by highbooster
I have (4) 160lb injectors. I dont have a chance of tuning these monsters with the translator do i Mike

P.S Thanks eclipse2via !

Gas or alky?
Mike

 

[SOURCE1064]

Mike I don't forsee any porblem bout would I be able to use these to match the color of my intake pipe. It looks as if it will flow more air too. Thunder Racing Ported Mass Air Meter Ends.

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[P8ntBalla]

I don't know too much about them so this may sound like a dumb question, but can you use a wideband O2 sensor in conjuction with this?

 

[DSMDuDE4G63T]

Hey guys this is Nick from good ol wisconsin, I work at a GM dealership and i was wondering what kind of mas sensors we can use from vehicles.. i am at work now till 5:30.. so maybe if someone would like to give me a call.. and let me know.. then i can post Parts #'s prices and what vehicles they are from 1-262-728-5220 Ask for Nick.... I also get 10% cost on GM parts

Maybe RamCharger would like to give a call and we can see what we can do...

 

[BoostinAWD]

Originally posted by natedogg


Don't connect the filter directly to the turbo. The radiator fan will blow hot air directly into it.

Thats why you get a 45 degree elbow and point the filter towards the ground . At least that is what I will be doing, but then again I live in AZ it doesnt rain here to much.

 

[natedogg]

Originally posted by BoostinAWD


Thats why you get a 45 degree elbow and point the filter towards the ground . At least that is what I will be doing, but then again I live in AZ it doesnt rain here to much.

Yeah, I was thinking about doing something similar for a blowthough setup intake pipe. One of two options...

1. A s-curve pipe similar to the stock one, but it curves underneath the stock location, so the filter would be located near the inlet for the stock SMIC, which I don't have anymore...so its not in my way.

2. A s-curve pipe that goes up to the stock location but then has a 90 deg. bend that goes through the stock SMIC outlet to put the filter down where the stock SMIC used to be.

I think I like #2 better. There's more pipe, but it better isolates the filter from the rest of the engine compartment for nice cool ambient air.

 

[highbooster]

Mike the 160lb injectors are for gas. This is to be used in a 2.4 liter 4g64 turbo street/strip car. Should be making 950 at the flywheel off the juice.

 

[marshall]

Sorry this is a little off topic, but I have a couple questions about your setup highbooster - How are you planning on making 950hp on pump gas and w/o nitrous? And why are you concerned with MAFs when you should be running a standalone with MAP?

Back on topic - if I were to weld flanges onto my 2.5" UICP to bolt the metering portion of the GM MAF to, would the slight (but very abrupt)transition in ID affect the readings of the MAF? In other words, is it similar to DSM and Ford MAFs which are very sensitive to the location of air flowing through the MAF?

Thanks,
Marshall

 

[DrZiplok]

Originally posted by marshall
Back on topic - if I were to weld flanges onto my 2.5" UICP to bolt the metering portion of the GM MAF to, would the slight (but very abrupt)transition in ID affect the readings of the MAF? In other words, is it similar to DSM and Ford MAFs which are very sensitive to the location of air flowing through the MAF?

I'd expect that not to work for a couple of reasons.

The basic principle of the hotwire MAF is that it measures the airmass transitting around a relatively small region in the centre of the flowpath, and the actual airmass is then extrapolated based on the overall flow diameter.

Your flow diameter would be reduced, leading to the sensor reading high.

The second issue would be that a gap of that size will cause turbulence, further affecting flow and possibly perturbing the air around the hotwire itself (impossible to know exactly how it'd behave short of mocking up some transparent tube and shooting smoke into it).

All IMO, IME, IANAFDS, etc.

 

[highbooster]

Hi marshall~~~I have a 1G AEM plug and play (48th unit made) for the FWD car. I was thinking of selling the big buck system and toning it down a notch. If the translator is flexable enough I can sell the AEM and save big on dyno time and map sensors, iat sensors ect... Hey what works,works and if this system works better than the great HKS VPC that busher used to put himself into the 7's then im in buisness for 300bux.

 

[jsigone]

ok, so a 90* pointed down makes more sence, but no one answered about the injectors. Will there be a problem running big injectors? I have 720's.

 

[Ramchargers]

I think the flange idea will work fine in fact I made a drawing of it a few days ago. In my version the pipe flares from 2.5 to the size of the hole in the electronics (can't remember the measurment) and back down after. The electronics are not very picky about the air placement. But this install for sure will affect the cal of the unit and will require some extra tuning. Bob has his doubts about this install but I don't and am going to give it a shot just because he said that, and I think it would look cool. I mocked this type of install up years ago as I was going to do a Buick that way and there was little change in flow an no extra turbulence (the pipe was quite on the bench). I never had it on a car to see what happened though since my test piece was exhaust tube and duct tape. (don't laugh) The cooler head, more thought out approach would be to just cut a chunk of pipe out and use some silicone transitions I have 2.5" to 3" units in stock. That would be easy to do and install, plus easy to tune since the meter cal will not change much. Hell what was I thinking I am going to do that. Now I remember why I never built the flange deal.


Mike

 

[Ramchargers]

Originally posted by highbooster
Mike the 160lb injectors are for gas. This is to be used in a 2.4 liter 4g64 turbo street/strip car. Should be making 950 at the flywheel off the juice.

In this current form the translator will not work for you. Now how much turbo, cam and engine rpm will you be running? I might have an idea.
Mike

 

[highbooster]

Originally posted by Ramchargers


In this current form the translator will not work for you. Now how much turbo, cam and engine rpm will you be running? I might have an idea.
Mike

Lets get sick. I will call you manyana.

 

[highbooster]

Originally posted by Ramchargers


In this current form the translator will not work for you. Now how much turbo, cam and engine rpm will you be running? I might have an idea.
Mike

Lets get sick. I will call you manyana.

 

[P8ntBalla]

wtf

 

[Bohrn]

he means "lets go totally wild on my huge turbo setup", and "I will call you tomorrow"

i think...