LC-1 Install Help...Wiring?

[95GreenGSX]

Ok so I pretty much understand the install of the sensor and LC-1 install itself. The only thing that the manual doesnt tell me is about my gauge.
Here are the locations for my LC-1:
a. Red 12V supply
b. Blue Heater Ground
c. White System Ground
d. Yellow Analog out 1
e. Brown Analog out 2
f. Black Calibration wire

Im not going to be using any of the analogs because I dont have my DSMlink yet. So, I will basically just be using this as a gauge for my AFR...for now.

My gauge has 4 wires. Yellow, Red, White, Black. Where do these wires hook into. I have no idea? Below are some pictures.

Gauge Wires...

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Wires for LC-1...

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LC-1

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[snowborder714]

Which gauge are you using?

 

[knochgoon24]

You can use either the brown or yellow wire on the LC-1. You use a laptop connected to the LC-1 to program the voltage output for the AFR range.

Unmodified, the LC-1 is setup for the brown to be a simulated narrowband and the yellow to work with their wideband gauges.

Do a quick search online to find a manual for your gauge.

 

[snowborder714]

Unmodified, the LC-1 is setup for the brown to be a simulated narrowband and the yellow to work with their wideband gauges.

You have this backwards

Brown is wideband.
Yellow is narrowband.

However, they both can be reprogrammed to whatever you'd like.

 

[knochgoon24]

Oops. Yeah. I switched mine around trying to get my gauge to read right. I've concluded that my Innovate DB gauge might be broken. Finally got a quality voltage tester to get it tested when the weather clears up...

 

[95GreenGSX]

Which gauge are you using?

Sorry, This gauge. XD-16 maybe? Its a Digital Gauge.

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You can use either the brown or yellow wire on the LC-1. You use a laptop connected to the LC-1 to program the voltage output for the AFR range.

Unmodified, the LC-1 is setup for the brown to be a simulated narrowband and the yellow to work with their wideband gauges.

Do a quick search online to find a manual for your gauge.

Im just looking on how to hook up the gauge. Im not using any analog until i get link. Im not sure how to hook it up or what wires the gauge goes to. Im pretty sure red is power and black is ground but where do I hook up white and yellow?

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

You've got the DB gauge! Same as mine. Here's a link to the DB gauge manual off of Innovate's Website: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/DB_manual.pdf

Here's the instructions copied and pasted

1. Wire the LC-1 per the unit's instructions
2. Connect the gauge's RED wire to a switched 12 volt source
(ignition switched).
3. Connect the gauge's BLACK ground wire at the LC-1's
White ground point. This ground point should ideally be an
engine block ground.
4. Connect the gauge's WHITE wire to the LC-1's Brown
analog output 2. The gauge is setup to work with the LC-1's
analog output 2 factory default setting of 0v = 7.35 A/F and
5v = 22.39 A/F.
5. Connect the YELLOW wire to a headlight power wire (a
wire that supplies current to the headlights). This enables the
display to dim for better nighttime viewing. DO NOT
CONNECT THIS WIRE TO THE HEADLIGHT DIMMING
WIRE. Connection to this rheostat type of switch will cause
the gauge to malfunction. If you chose not to utilize the
dimming feature, connect the yellow wire to ground.

 

[snowborder714]

That is a DB gauge. The XD16 doesn't use wires, but instead uses the stereo-like plugs that are on the LC-1.

Red - switched 12v source
Black - same ground place as LC-1's white wire ground (which will also be where the LC-1 blue wire is)
White - LC-1's brown wire (0-5v source)
Yellow - headlight power wire (for dimming purposes) DO NOT connect this wire to the headlight dimming wire as it will cause the gauge to malfunction. Alternatively, if you don't care to have the gauge dim at night, just ground the yellow wire.

You can also connect the LC-1 yellow wire to the gauge's white wire, but you'll have to reprogram the yellow wire to 0-5v, instead of the 0-1v that is currently set.

Instructions can be found here on the 2nd page of the PDF (on the left):
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/DB_manual.pdf


Edit: ^ Beat me to it because he copy and pasted.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

whatever works...

 

[95GreenGSX]

You've got the DB gauge! Same as mine.

Yup, its even better looking in person. Also, thanks Guys for the help, it would take me weeks without this forum. I learn something new everyday! Ill post some pics when its all installed.

 

[knochgoon24]

You DB gauge looks different than mine.

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Mine's deeper too. You must have a new version.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

This is what mine looks like:

 

[95GreenGSX]

This is what mine looks like:

Yup, mine looks like yours too. I also have another question. How do i connect the little led light and the push button switch? Is it Black Calibration wire---LED---Push Button---Ground?

Also, where did you connect your grounds and power to?

 

[knochgoon24]

My power is tapped from the cigarette lighter. It is grounded to a bolt that I have a 10ga wire from there to the battery. I also have the gauge grounded to that same lug, as the DB gauge instructions indicate. It prevents erroneous readings caused by a voltage difference in ground between the gauge ground and the LC-1 ground.

 

[95GreenGSX]

How do you have the LED push button set up?

 

[Red 4G63]

If it hasn't been figured out by now, the CD that is included with the kit has a wiring diagram. I almost posted it last night, but I didn't have time. When I get home, I will make sure to post it up.

The push button and LED (positives) go to the calibration wire from the LC-1. Then they are both grounded using the same grounds as the rest of the unit's ground. Below is how the diagram looks (kind of) in the software download instructions manual. I hope this helps someone... I know it helped me when trying to figure out their technical jargin.

|-------------------------------------- LC-1 Calibration Wire (Black)
|vvvvvvvvvvvv|
|vvvvvvvvvvLED (+)
|vvvvvvvvvvvv|
| (+)vvvvvvvvv|
Push Buttonvv|
|vvvvvvvvvvvv|
\vvvvvvvvvvv/
\vvvvvvvvv/
\vvvvvvv/
Ground (-)
vvvv|
vvvv|
_____


(it shows this grounding point as the same used for all other grounds for the LC-1)

ONLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE LINES... not the (v)'s. I had to use (v)'s so it would keep the proper spacing.

Above is a pretty crappy diagram, but good for quick use. I'll still try to get the real one up here.

 

[deflator]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuning-engine-management/286731-lc1-wideband-install-w-pics.html

 

[mach4g63t]

Hey, I'm fortunate enough to have a friend hooking me up with a new wideband since he's been using my AEM for 7 months. I hear the LC-1 is the best for it's progammability and accurate logging with DSMlink. I want the one with the DB red face gauge, like stated in this thread... this is in fact the same thing as the LC-1, right? Just a different gauge that goes to the unit?

I know it's a dumb question... I just wanna be 100% sure before I throw out 250 bucks on it. Thanks guys.

 

[snowborder714]

The LC-1 is the unit that the wideband plugs in to. It doesn't matter which gauge you choose.