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[PMWeatherDL]

Just got my 93 DL 5-speed. i have a junkyard in my family loaded with wrecks, blown motor cars, blown tranny cars, and everything possibly imaginable. 1st and 2nd gen talons, and eclipses, and one or two lasers. what should i be on the lookout for? obviously a turbo, but im talking stock parts that will bolt on to my 1.8 and stuff. cause a probe turbo just ate me and i don't want that to happen again, the guys won't stop hounding me. i want to ram it to him next time.

so if you could give me things to look for that would be great. i just got rid of my 92 Lebaron, which had the 3.0 V6 Mitsu engine. someone told me that i should stuff a Lebaron GT V6 w/ the 5 spd trans in it, is that even possible? to me it would almost eliminate the reason i bought the car, the engine, the motors are easliy moded, and pick up insane horse with a little done.

-thanks, Pm

 

[robs90tsi]

Just got my 93 DL 5-speed. i have a junkyard in my family loaded with wrecks, blown motor cars, blown tranny cars, and everything possibly imaginable. 1st and 2nd gen talons, and eclipses, and one or two lasers. what should i be on the lookout for? obviously a turbo, but im talking stock parts that will bolt on to my 1.8 and stuff. cause a probe turbo just ate me and i don't want that to happen again, the guys won't stop hounding me. i want to ram it to him next time.

so if you could give me things to look for that would be great. i just got rid of my 92 Lebaron, which had the 3.0 V6 Mitsu engine. someone told me that i should stuff a Lebaron GT V6 w/ the 5 spd trans in it, is that even possible? to me it would almost eliminate the reason i bought the car, the engine, the motors are easliy moded, and pick up insane horse with a little done.

-thanks, Pm

The 1.8 motors cannot produce alot of horsepower no matter what you do, and at the price it would cost you to turbo it you could just sell that car and buy an already turbo'd talon, eclipse, whatever with a 4G63T. You cant just get a turbo, manifold, whatever and just slap it on, it will not work like that, but if you really want to build up your 1.8 that bad, there is a sight I think out there for these motors, try searching and see what you could come up with, but if that guy with the probe turbo says anything, just remind him hes driving a FORD . Good luck with whatever you decide.

EDIT:
Oh ya, as far as that 3.0 motor goes, I wouldnt think so, never heard of a V6 swapped into a 1G before, I wouldnt think you'd have enough clearance for that, plus the tranny, axles, suspension, basically a whole new front end, but hey, what do I know, maybe someone can clear this one up for you.

 

[PMWeatherDL]

i tried this - went to auto zone bought one of those cone air filters, took everything off, and threw my mass air flow sensor in the back. my check engine light was on but i ignored it. my car was eating gas but had a little more power, nothing too big, but noticable to me. i have a friend with a 94 TSi Turbo/AWD that laughed at me and told me i was gonna mess my engine up hardcore, so i put it back on. will that really kill my engine?


as soon as i find a GT eng/trans im thinking about buying and trying it... i can't figure out if thats smart or not. i guess i kinda of enjoy being diffrent cause i want to keep my 1.8 and get things fabricated for it.

 

[napkinthief]

You have 4 routes you can go, turbo supercharge n/a or nitrous. The turbo wont be as effective for your 1.8, but you can do it and hope it gives you what you need. You will probably need to rebuild your engine though for anything of real horsepower.

Supercharger can get you some hp, but less than the turbo on the 4 cylinder engine, and is pretty costly for a limited amount of gains.

n/a you probably will never see 200 hp, and you will spend tons of money. Its a route to go if you don't care about racing, and just want to prove that the n/a engines can make some power.

Nitrous is your best bet. You can do a 50 shot without any engine modification, and you will make some power, but you will still be slower than a stock 1g turbo.



My recommendation to you, if you dont care if you get a 1g or a 2g, get a 1g gsx. You can find one under 5000 with some mods on it. If you get it auto, you will have the 13g turbo, which isn;t too good. If you get the manual however, you will have the 14b turbo which is being used by MANY dsm drivers. the 14b is a great turbo, fast spool, good flow, and is pretty cheap to find on ebay.

 

[robs90tsi]

Man, i just dont think that its gonna be worth it, your going to blow a lot of $$$$ to get that thing up to a stock 4G63T, way too much $$$, if you really wanna keep it N/T then get at least a 1G with a 4G63 N/T, those are a lot better than those 1.8 SOHC, your wallet will thank you.

 

[5150]

Honestly guy i would listen to what rob said and just sell the 1.8 and go find your self a 1st or 2ng gen Turbo. In the end youll be much happier, the 1.8 motor will never be able to make the type of power that the 4g63t can, and thats not just my opinion. But im not one to rain on your parade so do what you think is right.

 

[Marc91GSX]

are all of your junk cars 1.8ls. if you happen to have a 2.0 then I would go that route. Even the NA 2.os have potential No offense but like it was mentioned earlier there is not much hope for the 1.8 and if you are getting beat by a car that has the problem circled from the factory then you need to do someting. There are not many bolt ons that you can do in any NA application that will net you a significant gain in horsepower. Contrary to the honda philosophy Cone filters bolted to the TB and mufflers the size of a coffee can will not make your car run that much faster. You might pick up a few tenths but you have to remember that few tenths only means that instead getting beat by 2 lengths you are getting beat by around 1 13/16th car lengths. The real power comes from increasing your engines abillity to take in more air, burn more fuel, and expel the spent gasses. No matter what bolt ons you add (other than power adders) your engine will only be able to suck in, squeeze, ignite, and expel what it could from the manufacturer. Without better cams, better flowing head, and higher compression or power adder you will not see a noticeable improvement in your performance.

BTW tell the people who are giving you a hard time about getting beat by the probe to STFU. He had a bigger displacement engine, turbo, and less weight so he should win.

 

[Newlogics]

I don't see what the deal is.
If you have access to a junkyard with some DSMs, at least one is gotta be turbo. Pull the motor, tranny, pull the wire harness, ECU and gauge clutster. Swap it into your DL, and then you'll have a good platform to work with.
The inferiority of that 1.8 is not in it's smaller displacement. That engine is not designed for any kind of performance. The head flows horribly, compression is too low for N/A and pistons/rods cand't take much power. To make anything remotely competitive out of the motor, you would have to invest hundreds of dollars in machining alone. Not to mention forged components, fuel and other peripherals.

You wouldn't be the first, who wanted to be different by making a 1.8 fast, but pretty much all of them realized the obvious. Except GINSU (i believe), who turbocharged that sucker and pushing around 300hp, but he just doesn't know what else to do with money