2G Jnz tuning abs delete

[AZmocoLoco]

Does anyone know if they make these still? My car is a non abs, so I have the proportion valve already. I am going to install a 3G brake booster (and eventually brembo) but definitely scrapped the trashy hardlines already (I kept rear hard lines). I talked to someone at stm, and they said they do not offer anything like that, only the entire package, including the p valve... which is $250.

 

[Dsmkauai]

https://www.jnztuning.com/product_i...=4073&osCsid=67699fd4a19190b92943c37d9903414a

 

[sixfourbolt]

^^^ Is JNZ still in business? I've called and emailed them multiple times with no response...

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

They do still make them as i had there kit last year, they may be slow still as they moved shops to a much bigger property and josh who runs it was working 7 days a week trying to get it sorted and have as kittle downtime as possible, im sure he is just behind thats all

 

[smills1840]

They are absolutely still in business. I just received several packages from them yesterday, after ordering on Monday.

 

[bkrathwohl]

They are absolutely still in business. I just received several packages from them yesterday, after ordering on Monday.

I'm in the same boat. I've ordered multiple things from them within the last month or so and they've all arrived promptly.

If there are any things out of stock Josh will give me a call the same day and let me know.

 

[AZmocoLoco]

Thank so guys. I'm ordering them this weekend.

 

[sixfourbolt]

Yeah I've left several messages and emails and never heard back. Glad to know they're still in biz.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I have the STM kit it's legit cause it goes straight to the caliper banjo bolt, some of the other kits retain the stock rubber and that to me is pointless.

 

[AZmocoLoco]

I have the STM kit it's legit cause it goes straight to the caliper banjo bolt, some of the other kits retain the stock rubber and that to me is pointless.

i called STM, asked them if they had lines available without the prop valve, but they said no dice... so the JNZ kit will be ordered within the next 2 weeks. im still trying to figure out if there is a poly bushing available for the front subframe. a little help guys?!!

 

[bkrathwohl]

As far as I know this is the only aftermarket solution you will find:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-dsm-front-rear-subframe-and-solid-diff-bushings.495366/

You may be able to get OEM bushings if they are still available, for part numbers view this thread:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/front-subframe-bushings.415647/

 

[AZmocoLoco]

As far as I know this is the only aftermarket solution you will find:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-dsm-front-rear-subframe-and-solid-diff-bushings.495366/

You may be able to get OEM bushings if they are still available, for part numbers view this thread:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/front-subframe-bushings.415647/

Thank you for the links. I've given up. I see there is a set available for 1g's... and I have a spare subframe that I don't mind trashing... possible?

 

[AdR]

I have the STM kit it's legit cause it goes straight to the caliper banjo bolt, some of the other kits retain the stock rubber and that to me is pointless.

There's really no difference... The STM kit doesn't come with rear stainless brake lines either so to have SS lines in all four corners you have to either buy a SS brake line kit for $80+ in addition to the $250 of the abs delete kit or get two custom rear lines made. JNZ's kit is $184 so adding those $80+ quality SS brake lines makes sense and is still cheaper. Not to mention that not all 2G's came with banjo calipers, some early GSX's came with the 1g style direct fitting twin piston calipers.

At least for those of us who road race, or have upgraded calipers like my CTS-V's, JNZ's kit is IMO better. I can install the Evo SS brakes lines needed (in my case) and am able to swap them once they need changing. The brake lines that go to the rotor are not lifetime, install and forget items and require replacing every x number of years due to the heat and movement. I'd rather replace those than having to replace a single line all the way back to the prop valve.

 

[AZmocoLoco]

There's really no difference... The STM kit doesn't come with rear stainless brake lines either so to have SS lines in all four corners you have to either buy a SS brake line kit for $80+ in addition to the $250 of the abs delete kit or get two custom rear lines made. JNZ's kit is $184 so adding those $80+ quality SS brake lines makes sense and is still cheaper. Not to mention that not all 2G's came with banjo calipers, some early GSX's came with the 1g style direct fitting twin piston calipers.

At least for those of us who road race, or have upgraded calipers like my CTS-V's, JNZ's kit is IMO better. I can install the Evo SS brakes lines needed (in my case) and am able to swap them once they need changing. The brake lines that go to the rotor are not lifetime, install and forget items and require replacing every x number of years due to the heat and movement. I'd rather replace those than having to replace a single line all the way back to the prop valve.

Thanks for the reply. I am definitely sold after that! Hard lines will be fine for now at the rear... I am going to upgrade calipers in the future all the way around. Probably after everything else is done.

 

[chrysler kid]

Your signature contains improper english.

Also I wish my car had abs, makes driving in poor weather more difficult without it

 

[Archer Fabrications]

There's really no difference... The STM kit doesn't come with rear stainless brake lines either so to have SS lines in all four corners you have to either buy a SS brake line kit for $80+ in addition to the $250 of the abs delete kit or get two custom rear lines made. JNZ's kit is $184 so adding those $80+ quality SS brake lines makes sense and is still cheaper. Not to mention that not all 2G's came with banjo calipers, some early GSX's came with the 1g style direct fitting twin piston calipers.

At least for those of us who road race, or have upgraded calipers like my CTS-V's, JNZ's kit is IMO better. I can install the Evo SS brakes lines needed (in my case) and am able to swap them once they need changing. The brake lines that go to the rotor are not lifetime, install and forget items and require replacing every x number of years due to the heat and movement. I'd rather replace those than having to replace a single line all the way back to the prop valve.

I never said anything about the rears, i only said that the stainless line goes straight from the prop valve to the caliper eliminating the rubber line from the fender to caliper. The others retain the rubber line which still flexes. In my opinion it's pointless cause the stock lines are already hard to that point. Plus there shouldnt be any reason to replace a stainless line.

Plus the lines from fronts to the prop valve if you did need to replace it (which id assume would be over 100,000 miles) is only like 3 feet each, no biggie

 

[DSSA]

There's really no difference... The STM kit doesn't come with rear stainless brake lines either so to have SS lines in all four corners you have to either buy a SS brake line kit for $80+ in addition to the $250 of the abs delete kit or get two custom rear lines made. JNZ's kit is $184 so adding those $80+ quality SS brake lines makes sense and is still cheaper. Not to mention that not all 2G's came with banjo calipers, some early GSX's came with the 1g style direct fitting twin piston calipers.

At least for those of us who road race, or have upgraded calipers like my CTS-V's, JNZ's kit is IMO better. I can install the Evo SS brakes lines needed (in my case) and am able to swap them once they need changing. The brake lines that go to the rotor are not lifetime, install and forget items and require replacing every x number of years due to the heat and movement. I'd rather replace those than having to replace a single line all the way back to the prop valve.

^^^This.

There are several reasons we opt not to do a one-piece line from the prop valve to the caliper:

--Non-banjo calipers. If you use a one piece line, you have to remove the caliper and spin it loose.
--Many people already have SS brake lines, so for those people, the one piece lines would be redundant in that respect.
--Combined pricing of parts separately are cheaper than most other "one piece" kits. If you want the SS caliper lines, you add them separately--you buy what you need, and don't buy what you don't need.

We also offer them without the proportioning valves as some people A) already have non-ABS cars and need or want to replace the hard lines with SS lines. (I really don't suggest doing so unless yours have an issue, or you need to replace them with the engine still in the car) or B) have a prop valve in good shape that they snagged on the cheap somewhere.

 

[AZmocoLoco]

^^^This.

There are several reasons we opt not to do a one-piece line from the prop valve to the caliper:

--Non-banjo calipers. If you use a one piece line, you have to remove the caliper and spin it loose.
--Many people already have SS brake lines, so for those people, the one piece lines would be redundant in that respect.
--Combined pricing of parts separately are cheaper than most other "one piece" kits. If you want the SS caliper lines, you add them separately--you buy what you need, and don't buy what you don't need.

We also offer them without the proportioning valves as some people A) already have non-ABS cars and need or want to replace the hard lines with SS lines. (I really don't suggest doing so unless yours have an issue, or you need to replace them with the engine still in the car) or B) have a prop valve in good shape that they snagged on the cheap somewhere.

Thanks for the update and reply. I will be ordering a set tonight, lines only fitting 3G booster.

 

[AZmocoLoco]

What do you guys think?

 

[GST with PSI]

What adapters did you use to attach the lines to the 3G master?

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

What do you guys think?

Looks good, going over the prop valve i thought it was going to hit or snag on something but i cannot remember exsctly what, just make sure to route it so its easier to work on in the future, i made sure mine was in front of everything incase i wanted to redo it and pull a line for a reason,

 

[AZmocoLoco]

on the website, the option is available if you want to stay with the stock, or the 3G/evo upgrade. FYI, the 2001-2003 galant has the same brake booster, same part number, same everything. I pulled one from a junkyard for like 20 bucks, and it looked way cleaner than any 3g's available!

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

What adapters did you use to attach the lines to the 3G master?

It will be the 3AN adaptors to the MC which they sell seperately aswell,
You can also use banjo ends as i have done,

 

[GST with PSI]

It will be the 3AN adaptors to the MC which they sell seperately aswell,
You can also use banjo ends as i have done,

I know what adapters are supposed to be used.

I was asking the OP which ones he used, since most people use the incorrect inverted flare adapters. The 3G master cylinder has bubble flared ports.

 

[AdR]

I never said anything about the rears, i only said that the stainless line goes straight from the prop valve to the caliper eliminating the rubber line from the fender to caliper. The others retain the rubber line which still flexes. In my opinion it's pointless cause the stock lines are already hard to that point. Plus there shouldnt be any reason to replace a stainless line.

Plus the lines from fronts to the prop valve if you did need to replace it (which id assume would be over 100,000 miles) is only like 3 feet each, no biggie

You didn't but why bother with the fronts and leave the rears to the caliper rubber? So in both cases you need to buy a SS brake line kit since 99% of the time they come as a set not rears only.

On the matter of life expectancy I don't doubt they last for a long time if you only drive your car on the street and to and from the occasional drag event but I tend to track my cars (road race) and in the last 5 years I've had to replace Goodrich, Techna fit and other reputable company lines yearly due to degradation at the union points of the banjo fitting to hose. They have a life expectancy in road racing and it's definitely not 100K.