Is my balance shaft eliminated?

[MaddScientist]

Well, heres the deal i need to replace the timing belt and I need to order the parts, however the guy i bought the car from said that the balance shaft had been removed but no proof so i can save myself some money if this had been done but how can I tell if this shaft has been removed, thanx

 

[viperlp01]

Yes you can. Google Image Result for http://www.ilostmymind.com/manuals/DSM_manual/vfaq/proj-pics/balance-shafts/balshaft-30.jpg

If you look under the water pump. There is a little brown plug. That plug is sealing off where one of the balance shafts was located and would signify a BSE kit was installed. To verify that the 2nd one was in fact removed, when setting the timing on the car spin the oil pump gear and if it feels like it wants to fall back and forth and not leave it where you let go of it at then that balance shaft is still attached. That pretty much will tell you if the balance shafts have been eliminated. Some people just take the belt off the front balance shaft so there will be a bolt in that spot and then you should completely eliminate the balance shafts correctly.

 

[MaddScientist]

So the the brown plug is the indicator that the job was done correct? or that we at least have some kinda of elimination?

 

[DSMReviver]

If the balance shaft is removed, there will be no timing belt B present(smaller belt). I think that's the easiest way of telling, unless he removed the belt without actually removing a balance shaft. , that would suck.

 

[1GRedRocket]

i bought my car like that .. its deleted correctly now

 

[turbo tim1]

Yes you can. Google Image Result for http://www.ilostmymind.com/manuals/DSM_manual/vfaq/proj-pics/balance-shafts/balshaft-30.jpg

If you look under the water pump. There is a little brown plug. That plug is sealing off where one of the balance shafts was located and would signify a BSE kit was installed. To verify that the 2nd one was in fact removed, when setting the timing on the car spin the oil pump gear and if it feels like it wants to fall back and forth and not leave it where you let go of it at then that balance shaft is still attached. That pretty much will tell you if the balance shafts have been eliminated. Some people just take the belt off the front balance shaft so there will be a bolt in that spot and then you should completely eliminate the balance shafts correctly.

I agree, but if the guy didn't want to buy the kit he would leave the front balance shaft in with no belt hooked up. all you really have to do in a balance shaft delete is remove the oil pump shaft and plug the oil hole on the stub were you cut the shaft off. You would leave the front shaft in to plug the oil feed holes that lube the front shaft. I have done this many times and it works very well, the main reason I do it this way is because if you remove the front shaft you have to clock the shaft bearings 180 degrees to plug the oil feed holes that lube the shaft and that is very difficult to do with the engine still in the car.

If I have the engine on the stand I do every thing the same except I clock the bearings to the front shaft, remove the shaft and put in a frost plug to cover the hole where the shaft used to be.

Oh ya I have never bought a delete kit ever.

 

[steve]

The front BS doesn't really matter if it's in and disconnected or out as long as the rear is gone. You can check it by putting a screwdriver in the inspection hole and make sure the counterweights never hit it when you turn the pump sprocket list it would if it was in. Normally this is where you check the phasing of the rear BS and is pointed out in the timing belt VFAQ