Is FWD worth modding???

[kyle]

Wow, this really shouldnt be an issue let alone 5 pages. Who cares? I want to mod my fwd piss off. You mod awd all you want, I dont bother you guys..

 

[igs]

Originally posted by NosLaser
Not sure what terminal understeer has to do with drag racing, but I see your point.

Regards,

Drag racing takes neither talent nor skill, what is the point? Even redneck NASCAR drivers make turns. Left turns to be precise. But I digress.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by NosLaser

Fellas, all of you need to understand something. You will NEVER make a FWD hook well enough to be a quick drag car without a completely unstreetable suspension. NEVER.

Well what if we could care less about DRAG?????? That's all y ou can say is the AWD is better for drag. WE ALL KNOW THIS!!!!! The ? asked was " is FWD worth modding" and the answer is yes.

 

[pneumo]

I'd like to add that FWD is worth modding up to a point. At what point it stops being worth it is up to each individual, but for most it happens when there is wheelspin in the higher gears. That's called being hooked up. If you can no longer hook up, it ain't worth it anymore. Sure, you can do some mods to help stay hooked up, but only a few have no effect on the cars streetability.
In other words if you want a high powered FWD that hooks up, you have to turn it into a race car.
An AWD car can be fast with stock suspension, stock motor mounts, no slicks.

 

[Tallen]

Originally posted by igs


Drag racing takes neither talent nor skill, what is the point? Even redneck NASCAR drivers make turns. Left turns to be precise. But I digress.

someones never dragged a powerful FWD turbo car....now that takes skill...feathering the clutch and gas. i would be suprsed if 1/2 the AWD guys could do that well. my AWD friend sure couldnt!

 

[Nabyar]

Originally posted by Tallen


someones never dragged a powerful FWD turbo car....now that takes skill...feathering the clutch and gas. i would be suprsed if 1/2 the AWD guys could do that well. my AWD friend sure couldnt!

That was exaclty the point I was going to make. Yes, once you make so much power you'll spin tires in all gears. Yes, you would make better drag times in an AWD. Yes, the only way we can remotely hook up on over 300 hp cars is to have unstreetable suspension.

However I think we're missing the point here guys.

WE ARE DSMTUNERS. WE LIKE TO MOD AND TUNE DSM's. We are here to have fun, gain knowledge, and drive our cars.

As long as you're having fun driving your modded FWD, and I certainly am, then I say yes, IT IS WORTH MODDING.

And yeah, FWD does take more skill. Alot of fast FWD drivers will outskill any AWD driver (assuming they're always driven a AWD), so you can say you have the driving skill to go along with the mods that are on your car.

Anyway, just my .02 psi.

 

[Smokin GST]

FWD is not worth modding. FWD is worthless.

i have a 97 GS-T. why do i mod it? lack of anything better to do. i know a GSX with the same mods is most likely going to kick my ass (the fact that i can drive like a bad son of a bi*** gives me an edge though). it's not so bad, my car is a daily driver and i just like to have some passing power on the roads and highways with the ability to turn hard. i'm not a hardcore autocrosser or drag racer so i really don't care either way. you want a drag car, get all wheel drive... daily driver, FWD ain't so bad.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by Tallen

someones never dragged a powerful FWD turbo car....now that takes skill...feathering the clutch and gas. i would be suprsed if 1/2 the AWD guys could do that well. my AWD friend sure couldnt!

That just means FWD blows for drag racing.

 

[mlopez]

Originally posted by igs


That just means FWD blows for drag racing.

Tell that to www.magnusmotorsports.com

 

[Kingdom]

I think the wheel spin factor is been exaggerated a little bit.

First, a FWD above 300hp & without a limited slip Diff is no good. Just as bad as a one of those police crown victoria's doing one tire burnouts.

The reason I say its been exaggerated is because although the car is spinning its still pulling hard.

My car spins hard in 1st and 2nd, 3rd too depending on the roads. and when I say hard I mean jumping the rev-limiter hard.

But when I race BPU Evo's running 103 race gas (shoud run Low12's-High11's) from a 1st gear roll, they dont pull on me that much even though I am spinning. 2 car lengths max, in 2nd it will still be burning but I will start to gain and in mid of third it will be neck to neck. Then its good bye. I do have suspensions and Limit Diff, but no special setup and on 225 18's. I admit if the races were to happen from a stand still it will be a very different result, but not as bad as people think.

Its just that people have this idea that the car is standing still when its spinning the tires or not gaining speed if it spins from a roll.

Top End is just plain Sick!!

But AWD is still the 1/4 King and will always be.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by Smokin GST
FWD is not worth modding. FWD is worthless.

Ok well i'll give you $1000 cash for your car then. And that is even too much money for YOUR worthless car but i'll still buy it. Pm me your # so we can talk about when i can come pick it up.

 

[Smokin GST]

go #### yourself.

 

[igs]

Originally posted by mlopez
Tell that to www.magnusmotorsports.com

Welcome to Magnus Motorsports, home of the worlds fastest 2G AWD Eagle Talon

 

[mlopez]

Originally posted by igs


Welcome to Magnus Motorsports, home of the worlds fastest 2G AWD Eagle Talon

Point is, if fwd blows for drag racing then why would magnus build a fwd race car that is gonna be estimated at 1000hp. Click on project cars.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by Smokin GST


go #### yourself.

Lol well you said "FWD=worthless" YourCar=FWD therefore in your eyes YourCar=Worthless. Your car is worthless you said it. Know what you are talking about before you say stupid stuff.

 

[sphillips91]

Didnt look like that FWD talon had much trouble with traction too me. 11 sec 1/4 pretty damn good.

Guess its not worth it though?

Frankly I could care less about AWD, FWD whatever. I got what I got, (for a good deal I might add) And thats what I have to work with. Simple as that.

Just funny when you see something like this, yet its not worth modding?

 

[Smokin GST]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
Lol well you said "FWD=worthless" YourCar=FWD therefore in your eyes YourCar=Worthless. Your car is worthless you said it. Know what you are talking about before you say stupid stuff.

as a race platform, FWD is worthless. now proceed to #### yourself.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by Smokin GST
as a race platform, FWD is worthless. now proceed to #### yourself.

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So these people are stupid for putting all types of time and money into their "worthless" FWD cars??????? Once again your FWD is the only Worthless FWD.

Lemme guess, go **** myself???

 

[NosLaser]

Son of a.. Damnit, why isn't this LOCK button working?? Grrr...

Regards,

 

[kyle]

Originally posted by NosLaser
Son of a.. Damnit, why isn't this LOCK button working?? Grrr...

Regards,

.. I am still waiting for that.. Worthless arguement

 

[EclipseRolllin]

Yes i love my Fwd it ownsss Mustangs GT below and above but ya man they are worth modding.

 

[ivanr4g63]

I've seen great cars on the road and at the track:
FWD Celicas, Prelude's, Acura's, Civic with good swaps, Mazda protegé, Nissan 200sx, the new Sentra Spec V, even Fast Cavaliers Z24 and Tiburon's, not to mention Eclipse's and talons, all this cars with good mods and drivers deserve respect, despite all the rice around your block, these cars can be made really fast, All of you that tell me that they haven't seen one of these cars going really fast I believe you're a liar. I love AWD's, but thats no reason to not value all FWD's, yes AWD it's easier to gain traction, but what about every other make and model on the track that beat AWD's are you guys saying that they are better drivers then you are...? in my opinion the only thing about FWD is that you have to practice more in order to achieve good lauch, therefore you can become a better driver, am I wrong...? doesn't practice make you better in everything...? now I'm not saying that AWD is for dummies who don't know how to launch, but some of us have a really heavy foot, so wheelspin is the result on FWD's...

I like AWD's alot, but I own a FWD, I've learned alot with it, and I'm working slowly on more and more mods, I believe it's fun to learn, try, break, and try again... all cars break at a certain point, so it's all about learnig to mod our cars... so why are we flaming each other about FWD vs AWD, isn't there enough threads about this...? let's just Have fun...!

 

[igs]

fwd blows

http://4wheelracing.com/media/2wdsucks.html

 

[DSMu4ia]

Originally posted by NosLaser


Smithey's car makes 611 WHEEL HP, and weighs around 2800 pounds, and BARELY runs 11's.

Come on now Aslan, you should know better.

The 611 is on juice, and he's never made a nice nitrous pass yet. The trap speed is being limited by the top of 3rd @ 9k RPM, and the weight you quoted is low.

I'm sure he could go 11's on his 450whp pump gas settings.

I know other fast FWD's, that have went 11's with low 400whp. Then I also know the 600whp's on that barely go 135mph.

Majority of you guys bashing FWD's haven't driven a properly setup one. A properly setup FWD with 350whp, is about as "rough" on the street as a stock t-25'd FWD 2g, with just an upgrade intercooler pipe, and a boost controller.

 

[NosLaser]

I was simply using his car as an example of an impressive, powerful FWD. His highest trap speed was made using nitrous; you can hear that on the tape. That is neither here nor there; the point I was making is that his car would be an animal on the street from a high speed roll, but an 11.8 or whatever it ran is not a good testament as to how FAST that car really is. See what I mean? In a RWD, that same kind of power would be good for 9 second passes. Hell, a stock Viper GST can pull off the same ET's as Smithey's car. But you and I both know what would happen if Smithey raced a Viper GTS. I was merely speaking from a drag racing point of view.

Regards,