Is FWD worth modding???

[mlopez]

Originally posted by igs
fwd blows

http://4wheelracing.com/media/2wdsucks.html

That was the dumbest thing I ever read. That guy doesn't make sense.

 

[greyforestgst]

Originally posted by igs


Welcome to Magnus Motorsports, home of the worlds fastest 2G AWD Eagle Talon

you dont see the giant lime green 2g front wheel drive on the front page?

 

[Veritas]

I love my GS-T...but if I had the choice I would have liked to get my car in AWD with the same mods I have now...

 

[Saber_TF]

Originally posted by igs
fwd blows

http://4wheelracing.com/media/2wdsucks.html

Well we all have our opinions on the matter, hehe. But if you go by this article, then that would make a Mid-Engine Rear-Drive drivetrain the superior one. It has the traction of a rwd, the least amount of drivetrain loss like a fwd, & the top end that an awd vehicle won't have. So in turn, all us fwd's drivers just gotta flip the tranny over & drag race in reverse! Problem solved! Lol!...

Saber!...!...!

 

[greyforestgst]

Originally posted by Saber_TF


Well we all have our opinions on the matter, hehe. But if you go by this article, then that would make a Mid-Engine Rear-Drive drivetrain the superior one. It has the traction of a rwd, the least amount of drivetrain loss like a fwd, & the top end that an awd vehicle won't have. So in turn, all us fwd's drivers just gotta flip the tranny over & drag race in reverse! Problem solved! Lol!...

Saber!...!...!

yeah but then we'd suffer the weight distro problems that mr cars have
theres always something!

 

[rebuilt65]

All jokes aside,
I raced a 1986 Fiero GT 2.8 V6 with the usual stuff. Headers, Exhaust, coils , hi lift rockers, but the real clincher was the 125 sometimes 150 shot of NOS that I ran in it. I love all DSM's and actually any car that has improved porformance, regardless of the platform, but not many cars launched and accellerated down the quarter mile like this thing. My limiting factors were the engine.If I had been rich, I would have considered dropping the Caddilac Northstar conversion into it, or bought a turbo Toyota MR2. We should all remember that for the optimal acceleration platform, engine, drivetrain, induction setups all you have to do is look at the NHRA. Top Fuel Dragsters anyone? Funny cars anyone?
Massive displacemant(no 4 cylinders here), forced induction, Rear Wheel Drive cars with basically automatic transmissions. So while your bashing, don't forget that the world has allready found the best acceleration platform for now.
God I love to go fast!!!!!
Now If I could just make enough money to build that AWD Mitsubishi 3.5 liter V6 twin turbo Mirage bodied dragster.....

 

[GaRn]

were talkin about street cars here! i think fwd is fine for the street, there are alot of fwd drag cars(honda's), and if ya want traction your gonna have to run some drag radials.. obviosly fwd aint gonna be the best for drag racing but for an everyday car thats still fast as hell i think is just fine!

me? hell i still wanna get a AWD.. mainly for winter time..

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

well as someone mentioned earlier in this thread..its all about what you wan the car for..If its timeslips and fast times at the trax..yes a AWD will never be beaten by a FWD (seeing same moeds and all ..ya understand) but as for me..I wanted a convertible..and a quick one too! SO I decided to go for a Spyder rather then a GSX since I know hte GST:s can be pretty damn fast sa well.The thing is...I didnt buy it for trax in the first place..I bought it so I could get a uick car on the road.If a Beemer comes up and wanna play on the highway..he is gonna work har dto loose me ;-) I dont care about just a redlight race..or 1/4 mile eventhough I love them both..but I dont live my life a 1/4 mile at the time..... I live it cruising on the highway...leaving Imprezas....EVOs and others behind

Peace and thanx for space!

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Lets see on dsmtimes there are over (100) 11 second or faster AWD DSMs. And an an earth shattering (15) 11 second or faster FWD cars I think those numbers speak for themselves. If you have the choice between AWD and FWD why bother with FWD? I can tell you right now my AWD doesnt have a problem going from a roll. 400whp AWDs tend to make up for some of that weight and drivetrain loss.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary
Lets see on dsmtimes there are over (100) 11 second or faster AWD DSMs. And an an earth shattering (15) 11 second or faster FWD cars I think those numbers speak for themselves.

Not everyone is a TrackHead if you read the post above yours. It's about who want's what for their car. We all know that a AWD vs FWD with same mods will win from at the track. How come you failed to mention on the Hwy. One is better from a stop one is better from a roll. People keep cryin about track times. some of us don't care about tracktimes.

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T


Not everyone is a TrackHead if you read the post above yours. It's about who want's what for their car. We all know that a AWD vs FWD with same mods will win from at the track. How come you failed to mention on the Hwy. One is better from a stop one is better from a roll. People keep cryin about track times. some of us don't care about tracktimes.

I didnt fail to mention HWY. If you notice I said my AWD talon has no problem going from a roll. 400whp tends to do just fine from a roll even if it is AWD. The original poster wanted to know about MODDING the car. Obviously AWD is the better platform for it. Those numbers on that site tell the story plain and simple. The FWD guys are grabbing at anything to save face. If you were presented with a choice of AWD or FWD to start modding, you would be foolish to choose FWD.

 

[Nabyar]

Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary



I didnt fail to mention HWY. If you notice I said my AWD talon has no problem going from a roll. 400whp tends to do just fine from a roll even if it is AWD. The original poster wanted to know about MODDING the car. Obviously AWD is the better platform for it. Those numbers on that site tell the story plain and simple. The FWD guys are grabbing at anything to save face. If you were presented with a choice of AWD or FWD to start modding, you would be foolish to choose FWD.

Are you just retarded or did you not read any of this thread? We have already established AWD will be a better platform for going fast. HOWEVER, if your goals aren't that hard to achieve (lets say 13's and you want a good daily driver), a FWD is going to cost you less money to begin with (people want so much money for AWD nowadays'), and it won't take you that much money to hit those 13's. So it's reliability/low base cost/decently fast vs breaking parts/high base cost/really fast

Whats your choice?

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary
I didnt fail to mention HWY. If you notice I said my AWD talon has no problem going from a roll. 400whp tends to do just fine from a roll even if it is AWD. The original poster wanted to know about MODDING the car. Obviously AWD is the better platform for it. Those numbers on that site tell the story plain and simple. The FWD guys are grabbing at anything to save face. If you were presented with a choice of AWD or FWD to start modding, you would be foolish to choose FWD.

Nobody said that an AWD isn't capable of doing some damage from a roll just stating that it won't do as well. I love to race from a roll therefore i would and did choose FWD and i have a nice fast daily driver. Guys swear AWD rules all. It just gives better track #'s. Don't get me wrong i will be getting an AWD 1g for my project track car.

 

[sphillips91]

If AWD was so godly like some people make it out to be, why do most professional race car drivers prefer RWD? With the exception of rally and offroad racing RWD is the way to go.

Im more than happy with my FWD, if I could of gotten an AWD for the same price I would have. But its no big deal really. Hell if I had the money, Id of done a silvia engine swap in my 240sx.

I dont have enough money to spare to make my car run 10's or 11's, nor do I have enough to maintain a car that runs those times. Im happy enough having a car that can beat most other cars on the street.

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Originally posted by Nabyar


Are you just retarded or did you not read any of this thread? We have already established AWD will be a better platform for going fast. HOWEVER, if your goals aren't that hard to achieve (lets say 13's and you want a good daily driver), a FWD is going to cost you less money to begin with (people want so much money for AWD nowadays'), and it won't take you that much money to hit those 13's. So it's reliability/low base cost/decently fast vs breaking parts/high base cost/really fast

Whats your choice?

I think your the one thats retarded. The original poster was already sick of spinning and wheel hop stock. He wanted more power and obviously more power equals even more spinning. And since when is 3k for a 1g AWD a high base cost? I've got maybe 7500 bucks in my car and its putting down 400whp. I think thats pretty damn cheap. FWD wasnt going to be any cheaper and I would rape a FWD clone of my car at the track, on the street. It might actually be MORE expensive in the FWD because they would need to add a quaife so it doesnt torque steer its ass into a ditch. It may get me at EXTREME top speeds but thats it. At those speeds your the one being retarded for going that fast on public roads.

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Originally posted by sphillips91
If AWD was so godly like some people make it out to be, why do most professional race car drivers prefer RWD? With the exception of rally and offroad racing RWD is the way to go.

Im more than happy with my FWD, if I could of gotten an AWD for the same price I would have. But its no big deal really. Hell if I had the money, Id of done a silvia engine swap in my 240sx.

I dont have enough money to spare to make my car run 10's or 11's, nor do I have enough to maintain a car that runs those times. Im happy enough having a car that can beat most other cars on the street.

Id take a RWD drag car over a AWD drag car. I never said AWD is the be all end all. Obviously the fastest Imports are RWD. 4 radials dont equal the traction of 2 huge gumball slicks. In road racing the understeer of AWD is not the way to go when building a roadracing chassis either. Nobody ever mentioned RWD until you come out of left field with it. I think this was about the superiority of AWD to FWD

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary
I think this was about the superiority of AWD to FWD

I know a FWD that would dust your AWD.:laugh:

 

[c0degsx]

CAN SOMEON LOCK THIS THREAD ITS LAME!

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T


I know a FWD that would dust your AWD.:laugh:

nope impossible my car is unbeatable. The saying "theres somebody always faster" doesnt apply to me...

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Oh....... well i just thought your AWD was oh so superior

 

[Nabyar]

Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary


I think your the one thats retarded. The original poster was already sick of spinning and wheel hop stock. He wanted more power and obviously more power equals even more spinning. And since when is 3k for a 1g AWD a high base cost? I've got maybe 7500 bucks in my car and its putting down 400whp. I think thats pretty damn cheap. FWD wasnt going to be any cheaper and I would rape a FWD clone of my car at the track, on the street. It might actually be MORE expensive in the FWD because they would need to add a quaife so it doesnt torque steer its ass into a ditch. It may get me at EXTREME top speeds but thats it. At those speeds your the one being retarded for going that fast on public roads.

1) Thats a high base cost for a 1g, compared to a 1g FWD.
2) I don't give a rats ass what your AWD does or how much power it puts down -- this is a FWD thread.
3) It would infact NOT be more expensive if, like I said, your goals aren't that hard to reach. The original poster probably needs to wake up and set better, more practical goals for his car or buy an AWD and be happy.
4) Half your post pertained to information we already knew.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

no need to argue... both serve their purpose.. fwd is fun for on the roll and on the freeway.. but anyhting else im gonna have to say awd..
do wat i did.. and have both.. unfortunately.. the GS-T is for sale.. i wish i could keep it.. nothing like having best of both worlds.. but we cant afford 2.. and the gsx is almost done to completion.. oh wel.. it was fun while it lasted..

 

[frontdriver]

Originally posted by RS entities
I have a 90 Laser turbo fwd. I have the need for more power, of course, is it worth modding the fwd. I already get wheel hop and no traction above 4k in first gear with just an open filter. But i don't want to go through the hassle of selling it and finding a good condition awd. Will the front wheel drive be uncontrolable with a 16G, maybe not uncontrolable but will it be fun? will it hook up in 2nd gear, granted i have all supporting mods. i got some money coming in in clumps, should i force myself to save it for the awd, or spend it as it comes on the fwd? just curious what you all think on the subject.

thanks

1.Will the front wheel drive be uncontrolable with a 16G, maybe not uncontrolable but will it be fun?
No, it won't be uncontrollable. Oh yeah, it'll be fun.
2. will it hook up in 2nd gear, granted i have all supporting mods.
Yes, you just have to learn how to control it. Lots of practice, sticky tires, better suspension parts.
3. i got some money coming in in clumps, should i force myself to save it for the awd, or spend it as it comes on the fwd?
After reading all these responses you should have a better idea by now, or maybe more confused. Depends on what you ultimately want.

Right now I'm making 324 whp on pump gas on my FWD. I don't plan on upping the hp anymore due to traction problems on the street. If I had a AWD I'd be increasing it to the max. power tolerated by stock internals.

 

[EuroGSTSpyder]

Geez...give it up now guys...The guy only wanted to know if its worth modding a FWD!! And yes it is...Its also worth modding a Honda...BMW or even a FIAT if you have interest in cars and building them! Doesnt matter what anyone else thinks..If you like the car..and know your goals..then go for it

I personaly know that a AWD would crush me on the trax...It wont crush me on the street as easily ( if at all but I leave that discusion outta here) but my own goals are set...and thats all that counts. Some ppl spend the extra to get a AWD..and some dont.Some ppl race trax..some dont..some want better handling then others...C'mon!! Never thought of why there are like thousand of different car models out there?Could it be because we all have different tastes...goals,needs and financial possibilitys?
Its all about what each and everyone of us needs, can get and what the goals are.....We are all DSMers so dont let this go on to be a flame between FWD and AWD..both cars have their advantages and disadvantages...simple as that!!

Geezus..this thread starts to look like a kindergarten fight...
Pls lock it before it gets even more outta hand......

PEACE!

 

[DELTA_Rotary]

Originally posted by EuroGSTSpyder
Geez...give it up now guys...The guy only wanted to know if its worth modding a FWD!! And yes it is...Its also worth modding a Honda...BMW or even a FIAT if you have interest in cars and building them! Doesnt matter what anyone else thinks..If you like the car..and know your goals..then go for it

I personaly know that a AWD would crush me on the trax...It wont crush me on the street as easily ( if at all but I leave that discusion outta here) but my own goals are set...and thats all that counts. Some ppl spend the extra to get a AWD..and some dont.Some ppl race trax..some dont..some want better handling then others...C'mon!! Never thought of why there are like thousand of different car models out there?Could it be because we all have different tastes...goals,needs and financial possibilitys?
Its all about what each and everyone of us needs, can get and what the goals are.....We are all DSMers so dont let this go on to be a flame between FWD and AWD..both cars have their advantages and disadvantages...simple as that!!

Geezus..this thread starts to look like a kindergarten fight...
Pls lock it before it gets even more outta hand......

PEACE!

Says the guy who dug the thread up from the dead to make a reply. I think the thread was already done until you dug it up