Instrument Panel INOP

[HiBoostGST]

Ok so i searched for instrument panel problems and non of them really help me out and they have been dead a while.

Heres the problem: My insturment cluster doesnt do JACK. No RPM, Speedo, Odo, oil pressure, boost, temp, turn signals, hazards, dash lights, and my a/c blower motor doesnt come on now. I checked ALL fuses in my 95 GST and everyone of them is good and has power. I pulled the wiring diagram for my car and the grounds are good too as far as i know. Also pulled the connector diagrams for the car and im 95 percent sure that all of them are connected. I took the cluster out and checked pins to see if i even have power and I DO. I have NO idea whats going on with this thing. There is also an instrument panel relay by the kick panel, i checked that, and swapped it with another relay and still no fix. ANY help would be awesome! Thanks!

 

[Spdfreak]

When you pulled out the cluster did you check to see if there was damage to green circuitry paper cause you can have short on there also.There is like alot of copper pasted on lines that also conduct electricity to the gauges, check to make sure theres no burn marks or cracks.

 

[HiBoostGST]

Ya, i pulled the cluster out again and took off the aftermarket gauges to make sure that wasnt a problem. Far as i know there are no problems with the circuitry but i will check again. I had moved the fuse box a little in the engine bay so im guessing that could also have created a problem. However, there are no fuses blown still. Ill have to check and make sure there are now wiring problems or anything that pulled out.

Still not fixed though. Thanks for your help thus far.

 

[Backinajiffy12]

Im having the sme problem but its an intermitten thing and most of the time its just my rpm gauge and it happens when im just driving down the road. what could that be?

 

[HiBoostGST]

sorry to hear your experiencing some of the same problems. unfortunately i STILL have the prob and no one seems to want to help. let me know if you find out anything.

 

[Backinajiffy12]

Like I said above mine is an intermitten problem. and if im sitting at a stop and it happens the SRS light will come on, but as soon as I go for a bit it will go off. but I still have power to the factory boost, oil pressure, gas and engine temp gauges. I have checked the alt. fuse and its ok. what else would it be?

 

[artindsm]

it is the board behind the gauges that is damaged i had the same thing happen to me when i installed the after market gauges if you accidentally scuff or scratch something they stop working my water temp gauge stopped working after the install of the gauges and i had just slightly set it on the table.... (Not thinking) and messed part of the board up.

 

[Backinajiffy12]

it is the board behind the gauges that is damaged i had the same thing happen to me when i installed the after market gauges if you accidentally scuff or scratch something they stop working my water temp gauge stopped working after the install of the gauges and i had just slightly set it on the table.... (Not thinking) and messed part of the board up.

Mine only happens every once and a while but when it happens my SRS light comes on, and as soon as i start driving it goes away. what would that be?

 

[HiBoostGST]

Im revisiting my own thread with hopes that someone who looks at it will actually provide some help this time on account of the problem still isnt fixed. Did some more research and from what i can tell on the wiring diagram, there should be a group of grounds somewhere in the lower driver kick panel. I cant seem to find this and i dont remember seeing them when i replaced my dashboard. any help this time would be great!

 

[HiBoostGST]

HAHAHAHA once again lookers but no helpers. Awesome forum.

 

[stevestevesteve]

does your radio work? i might know the problem you are having

 

[HiBoostGST]

hey man, first off, thanks for even trying to help me. i dont have a radio installed right this moment but it worked when i took it out. and so did the fan blower. so it its a good possibility that i messed something up in there. but still, all the fuses are good so your guess is as good as mine.

so what do you think it is stevestevesteve

 

[HiBoostGST]

seriously, no help again? wow....awesome

 

[Kickerbeast]

What is odd with your problem is that you are loosing everything, even the turn signals. There are many different circuits there that would feed the cluster. I'm not familiar with the 2G cluster so I can't be a huge help, but I would really start looking at all connectors. There has to be something that was missed to lose everything like that. If you post up a link to a 2G wiring diagram, I will take a look and give you some suggestions. Without it, there isn't much that I can do.

 

[HiBoostGST]

ill try to get a diagram up on here. however, im sure one of the 'experts' probably have one on here already. i started to pull the dash out again but stopped because i know that the a/c controls worked at some point before i pulled the radio out. i have checked all of the connectors that are under and inside the dash and from what i see, all of them are connected. i checked the dimmer switch tonight and i cant seem to get any power when i test it. that could be the cause of why the lights dont come on in the dash but i dont think that is the reason why my speedo, tach, oil pressure, and boost gauge dont work. the speedo is mechanical and should work regardless but it doesnt. i have no idea thus far.

 

[Kickerbeast]

The speedo is mechanical on a 95?

 

[HiBoostGST]

....no im a retard its electrical. that's my bad.

 

[jeff24680]

Honestly I understand you pain, when I was installing correction* "trying" to install aftermarket gauges I got ahead of myself and screwed up my 99 gauge cluster which is rare enough as it is. Extremely bitter about this as I was, I just found another gauge cluster with almost exact same mileage on it and put it in.

I'm sorry I can't help you as I have no experience or knowledge of how the gauge cluster works and I'm sure lots of people that are "viewing" your thread are the same way so you can't bash the forum. This forum has helped me with everything I've done to my car. Sometimes I will go through every new thread on the front page and not respond to anything because I do not want to give false information.

Good luck getting it fixed.

 

[350war]

I agree with Artindsm. Sounds like the printed circuit board on the gauge cluster it could be cracked and you cant even see it. I would go to the junkyard and see if you can get one cheap to test or maybe some one has a spare you could borrow. Make sure you check your fuses with a multimeter I have had them blow and you cant tell just by looking at it. Backinajiffy sounds like you just have a loose corroded or broken wire. Intermittent electrical problems are the hardest to diagnose.

 

[HiBoostGST]

is the 96 n/t cluster compatable with the 95 gst? minus the boost and oil pressure? i borrowed my friends extra cluster and put it in but still nothing. i have also already metered all the fuses and they all seem to be working. it seems everything has came about after i took the radio out and moved the fuse block under the hood a little (didnt cut anything, just moved it) i also replaced the dash and have heard that there is a main ground that goes somewhere in the driver kick. i dont remember messing with this or seeing it to begin with. thanks for the help guys.

 

[ADrewzki]

HAHAHAHA once again lookers but no helpers. Awesome forum.

Quit bumping your own thread and lose the f*in attitude.

I'm looking at the electrical diagram on the DSMmanual and I'm looking at page 204/540 forward. There's a block of things that are run off a similar circuit as your AC and your lights. Does your cigarette lighter work? Does your rear wiper work? Have you tried the obvious-a borrowed instrument cluster from someone? You said you have power to the dash connectors so it would make sense to me to test a cluster if you can get your hands on one. I would also double check fuses with a multimeter as was already suggested as they can get thermal fatigue and be open. Worse case scenario is that you moved something during your radio install and you have a broken wire somewhere.

Edit: I am unsure if the clusters are the same between N/T and turbo. I would assume they are since the two cars have very little to do with each other.

 

[HiBoostGST]

Quit bumping your own thread and lose the f*in attitude.

ill keep that in mind. im not a child and dont need to be told what to do. i appreciate the info you are giving me and im sure you have been frustrated at some point working on you one vehicles. and once again, i have metered what i can think of and what has been suggested. as far as the radio. no breaks can be found at this time.


lets go ahead and get past the "attitude" or "frustration" and see if we can fix a problem. you would expect the same in return if YOU were the one who was frustrated. bashing is done as far as im concerned, i suggest the same

 

[350war]

Make sure there is not a power wire that runs thru the stereo to the gauge cluster some cars do this. I had a nissan when I installed an after market stereo none of the lights in the gauge cluster worked. Plug the stereo back in and see what happens.

 

[HiBoostGST]

thanks 350war. ill try that. i know stevestevesteve had said something about the radio earlier but didnt have a chance to explain. ill give it a shot and see what happens.

 

[brassc2007]

when i tapped my pcm under the hood i would have that problem all of the wiring going to your pcm is good right? I tapped the one white wire for my tack and if it had a loose connection non of my gauges would work