I want to lower my car more! Please help.

[jacobevan611]

I'm currently running tokico blue struts and tokico springs on my 98 2gnt. My current setup handles great and helped get rid of most of the nasty oem wheel gap but I still want my car lower. I don't have the money for a set of full coilovers. Idealy I would like to get eibach sportlines becasue I love how the 2g sits with them but everyone says they are bouncy and harsh. What other options do I have? Are Ground control coilover good? or what about h&r springs. I just want the drop the sportlines give with out compromising any handeling.

Thanks. - Jacob

 

[jacobevan611]

Anyone? I'm leaning towards ground controls right now. Does anyone have personal experience with them? Why do you guys reccomended? Are Sportlines really that bad? Thanks.

 

[97-gst]

torch your springs

 

[jacobevan611]

That was no help. Does anyone have any real help?

 

[knochgoon24]

If a car is bouncy, it's not the springs fault, it's the struts.

 

[jacobevan611]

Well then would I be able to run the sportlines on the tokio blues or would the rode be bouncy?

 

[4G63_Attack]

If the city where you live in has a lot of crack, speed bumps, uneven roads. The sportline spring will not be the best choice

 

[jacobevan611]

My roads are pretty smooth. I just would like to know if the tokico blues I have will handle the sportlines or will they blow out? Also will my car not handle as good with the sportlines compared to the tokico springs I have now? And if so how about the ground controls?

 

[4G63_Attack]

Well the good thing about the ground controls that you can change the ride height Vs. the set sportlines'.... I don't know if the tokico likes to be drop more then stock height.... Like the KYBs' they don't like to be drop more then the stock height

 

[BLINKY619]

i got a good set of coilovers for 60 bucks.... and canj drop it low ass he11... check out my pictures... also they are good on bumpy roads.... and grabs nice on curves

 

[LandoAWD]

Ground Controls with Konis is a sweet little setup. I ended up going with a used set rather than some chinese coilover kits like K-Sport or Megan

Do yourself a favor, though...skip the 60 dollar coilovers. Not worth your life to be low.

 

[jacobevan611]

The ground controls are 400 bucks. And they match the spring rates to the tokico struts I have. Any input on eibach sportlines?

 

[PieEyedPiper]

I was going to try and not post in this thread but now that it's taken off and we have suggestions like "torch your springs", I couldn't help it any longer.

Ground controls are what you want if you want to improve your situation in any real capacity. Sportlines are discontinued, I thought? Anyways, good riddance. They're great for show cars but they have softer rates than stock equipment and a 2" drop is just too low for such weak rates - not to mention you're at about the threshold (maybe even past?) of diminishing returns as far as handling. You can actually decrease your handling by going too low.

Bottom line is Sportlines are meant for show and Ground Controls are meant for go.

EDIT: And don't stress whether or not your HP's will take it. They will - within reason. The kit you have already drops the car around 1.75", those shocks will handle a 2" drop but really think about why you want to do this. Once you cross the 1.75-2" threshold your car becomes near impossible to navigate city streets without damage to your bumper and, once more, you may even experience a decrease in handling.

 

[ilco187]

koni adjustables they will save you about 2 lbs and they will give you better traction for the hole shot i just had to do it.

 

[jacobevan611]

I was going to try and not post in this thread but now that it's taken off and we have suggestions like "torch your springs", I couldn't help it any longer.

Ground controls are what you want if you want to improve your situation in any real capacity. Sportlines are discontinued, I thought? Anyways, good riddance. They're great for show cars but they have softer rates than stock equipment and a 2" drop is just too low for such weak rates - not to mention you're at about the threshold (maybe even past?) of diminishing returns as far as handling. You can actually decrease your handling by going too low.

Bottom line is Sportlines are meant for show and Ground Controls are meant for go.

EDIT: And don't stress whether or not your HP's will take it. They will - within reason. The kit you have already drops the car around 1.75", those shocks will handle a 2" drop but really think about why you want to do this. Once you cross the 1.75-2" threshold your car becomes near impossible to navigate city streets without damage to your bumper and, once more, you may even experience a decrease in handling.

Thanks for the help PieEyedPiper. So now that I have narrowed it down to ground controls my questions is will i need a front and rear camber kit. I plan on dropping it pretty low maybe 3/4 of an inch more than how low it is now becasue the kit i have now only dropped it maybe 1.3 inch from factory (the all wheel drive tokico hp kit drops the car 1.75) Right now my camber up front is -1 degrees and in the rear its like .8. If i drop the car 3/4 of an inch more will I need front and rear camber kits or can i jsut add a couple more washers to the rear and not run a camber kit in the front. As long as my front camber is not more than like 1.4 ill be happy. So what should I do? Thanks.

 

[1997_GSX]

With the tokico hp setup I had to get a rear camber kit, I can barely get 3 fingers under my bumper in the front. My car is too low now, I can barely make it out of the driveway and my car drags on speed bumps.

 

[jacobevan611]

With the tokico hp setup I had to get a rear camber kit, I can barely get 3 fingers under my bumper in the front. My car is too low now, I can barely make it out of the driveway and my car drags on speed bumps.

Thanks, but what you said is quite irrelevant.

 

[1997_GSX]

You will need to get a camber kit in the rear for sure. You should have had one with your old setup. Ill be more specific. I was just adding my experience ...

 

[jacobevan611]

You will need to get a camber kit in the rear for sure. You should have had one with your old setup. Ill be more specific. I was just adding my experience ...

Right now with the drop i have I just have the washers in the rear. I am wondering If I will need a front cmaber kit after the drop.

 

[BLINKY619]

skunk2 isnt a bad brand

 

[mattsGSTeclipse]

I have Eibach Sportlines and Tokico HP struts. I think the ride is fine, but this is the only lowered car I have ever had. My buddy with more experience with lowered cars mentioned how the ride is stiff. It doesn't bother me. With that set up, I have both front and rear camber kits.