i have idea!!!!! will it work?!?!?!?

[johnmel]

I think its a cool idea and it will work car companies do this all the time there's tons or non Turbo awd cars Subaru is just to name one and they do it with 2.0 motors

 

[Cdc1221]

Personally i think it would be flippin awesome, if you could mate a 3g 3.0 to a 4g63 trans. An all motor awd v6 dsm... thats just me though. Love the sound of those motors

 

[lbwilliams44]

Personally i think it would be flippin awesome, if you could mate a 3g 3.0 to a 4g63 trans. An all motor awd v6 dsm... thats just me though. Love the sound of those motors

You can swap out the 3000GT 6g73 into a GSX, you can even Twin Turbo it if you run the turbos at the end of the exhaust. Makes for one sweet ride.

 

[longislandDSM]

Why would this be cool?

 

[MY1GDSM]

Is it possible to take a 2G AWD DSM and put a 1G non turbo 4g63 in it and have a non turbo awd 2g?

It would be the same as Doing a 6 bolt swap and just putting The Maf on the Throttle body... .

Take that N/a motor swap with 1g 7.8:1 Turbo pistons and some oil squirters and a Turbo and in it would be a six bolt swap... Doesn't make a lot of scene.

But as pretty much said if you want a N/A Awd 2g Take your turbo off... .

HA From the profile pic I'd say it already is

 

[spooln4fun]

Take your maf off the turbo and route it to the throttle body, as for an exhaust you could possibly buy a after market 4-2-1 header for a 1g n/a and bolt it
To your block then make your exhaust from there.

 

[Project91Tsi]

Not trying to knock anyone's ideas here. The reason everyone is going to start flaming is because the question posed is against the idea of visiting a performance oriented site. It isn't a question really of if an awd car has to have a turbo, of coarse it doesn't. It doesn't even have to be fast, but people come here because they want to go fast Ricky Bobby style.

Now as far as the OP is concerned, I'm assuming you're asking because you have a motor from a N/T 1g in the garage, and either have or have access to a 2g awd shell and want to know if the swap will be easy and cost efficient? If that is the question, then what kind of budget are you interested in. That is where you'll find your answer. If you want a $500 conversion just to have a car that runs and drives, I doubt you will do it.

If you want to spend some cash and time and just have something unique, then I would probably look at doing something that won't confuse people but make them interested. Worlds first hybrid 2g, or perhaps a 4 cylinder cummins swap. Just a couple off the top of my head.

PS, I really don't think the muscle car guys need another slow 4 cylinder on the road to laugh at and justify the old displacement motto...

 

[2g awd dsm]

wow thanks for all the positibe and negetive feedback i like some of the ideas. other ideas not so much like takin the turbo off my car. im not doing this to my car.... i love my turbo. i would just like to do something that obviously not many people are doing it. and the car would never be raced it dont need to have a bunch of power. as for the galant awd n/a thats defeating the purpose of the eclipse gsx body... the 4g64 sounds good, and u can put 4g63 heads on it or no? they have the awd galant n/a so why is it so dumb to make a awd eclipse n/a with the same motor..... call me out on being a noob or whatever you want it doesnt change a thing. again thanks for all the replies. if i ever get around to doing this ill be sure to post it on the web for people to check out or to hate on it

Not trying to knock anyone's ideas here. The reason everyone is going to start flaming is because the question posed is against the idea of visiting a performance oriented site. It isn't a question really of if an awd car has to have a turbo, of coarse it doesn't. It doesn't even have to be fast, but people come here because they want to go fast Ricky Bobby style.

Now as far as the OP is concerned, I'm assuming you're asking because you have a motor from a N/T 1g in the garage, and either have or have access to a 2g awd shell and want to know if the swap will be easy and cost efficient? If that is the question, then what kind of budget are you interested in. That is where you'll find your answer. If you want a $500 conversion just to have a car that runs and drives, I doubt you will do it.

If you want to spend some cash and time and just have something unique, then I would probably look at doing something that won't confuse people but make them interested. Worlds first hybrid 2g, or perhaps a 4 cylinder cummins swap. Just a couple off the top of my head.

PS, I really don't think the muscle car guys need another slow 4 cylinder on the road to laugh at and justify the old displacement motto...

thanks for the support and ideas. but to the ones that will laugh they can keep on laughing because it would be a grocery getter not a racer haha

 

[gs59_20]

Take that shell and put it over a running Honda Civic.

Not a fan of the Idea. AT ALL,but doesn't mean you shouldn't try it if it's something you wanna do.

 

[bryanwheat]

I don't think that it a bad idea at all. Not every gsx shell has to be turned into a race car. It would be a very reliable awd car that would get around well in the winter. A 4g64 with a dohc head would run alright.

 

[Finley95gst]

as long as you have the money and someone to help you that knows what they are doing anything is possible.

 

[mchustle]

Why are so many people "it will be hard" and "cost so much" when it's the same process as a 6bolt swap (which is easy) and you can get the car and motor for cheap? Unless I missing something here the motor will bolt right in, no problem there, so the only thing "fabricated" would be an intake and possibly an exhaust downpipe. The hardest part would be "tuning out" the air produced by the turbo in wot etc, but I don't even know if that would be needed or if the ecu would just stay out of the boost timing and fuel parts of the map.

 

[95g-s-x]

Just use a ecu from a 2.4 spyder, and a few pin swaps and your golden. I don't think its a bad idea, just not one that one "normally" does. Nothing wrong with being different. Its your car, money, and time......do as you wish.

Food for thought..........Subaru has been making n/a AWD for years.

 

[zedicus]

if the shell and motor are as cheap as you say then why are you sitting around waiting. just do it. plus when time or money allows you could grab the turbo parts off of a wrecked car and add it to yours, or even a ebay turbo kit and keep the boost lowish. or do an ultra high comp N/A build. or just drive it for all eternity and enjoy the crap out of when it snowed and everyone else was stuck in the driveway and you were still bebopping around town....(slowly)

just thought of this, N/A AWD wouldnt make a bad rally car in one of the small classes.

 

[MY1GDSM]

Just use a ecu from a 2.4 spyder

I'd just go with a 98-99 and adjust things in the area's of the maps that it actualy would hit at the lower airflow of on a N/a motor...

 

[gprix1]

When was first breaking in my new 4G64 engine on my '97 GSX I had the wastegate wide open which basically turned it into a NA car. I drove it that way for a few weeks and to be honest, it ran great. Not sure how a 2.0L would be but that 2.4L was actually not bad at all running NA.
Once I did the 1000 mile oil change and hooked up the actuator on the 20g the thing turned into a beast. It was fun running NA for a little while but I would never go back.

 

[mattasi]

My brain hurts reading this, but still good luck!

 

[2g awd dsm]

thanks to all who support the idea. but again this is a totally different project then my talon tsi with the turbo still on it . id just like to have the turbo awd and the na awd but the same car. and the 4g64 with dohc head sounds nice. thanks for all the feedback i got way more replies then i thought i would although they werent all positive but thanks anyways to all of you.

 

[TheStew]

I am deeply perplexed by this post.....AWD non-turbo..... I would say if you do decide to do this venture you should build the non-turbo engine up before you drop it in, DSM's were never intended to go turtle speed. Please don't blame the car when your getting passed by a prius on the highway