How to tell if lifters are bad

[jpdsm92]

I have my lifters out and I bleed them all* before bleeding i couldn't move any of them*

now i can move them between my thumb and index finger easily. I cleanned them out with seafoam soaking them over night.

How can I tel if i need replacement ones. I know before I pulled them i did have a little chatter up top.

here is a picture of them.

 

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GSC Power-Division 4G63 ZERO-TICK Lifters - Automotosports, Inc.

 

[agentorange313]

GSC Power-Division 4G63 ZERO-TICK Lifters - Automotosports, Inc.

thanks for the link...


OP, there is not need to pay inflated prices such as 180 for lifters

I would take Boguses advice, I even found ITM 3g lifters on ebay, BNIB, for 65 bucks shipped.

 

[DSM IN MN]

MAP has what you're looking for.

ITM Revised Lifters for All 4g63 Applications (Complete Set) - Modern Automotive Performance

Also you can go with the ones BogusSVO mentioned on Ebay.

LASH ADJUSTERS lifters 4G63 16 valve 3MM Eclipse Talon | eBay

 

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Read up on those before buying them, I've heard a lot of stories of them clicking.

Personally I like the fact the Gsc lifters have a spring in them to compensate for low oil pressure and not tick, I cannot stand that noise.

If you really are serious about stopping the tick do this mod and get the eBay ones or oem.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/341028-4g63t-head-oil-port-mod.html

 

[Maikus08]

Theres a book though . Itll tell you how

u mean hayness?? got it, just wondering if theres a dsmtuners guide...

 

[arrowhead]

Diesel fuel is what the fsm recommends to clean them. I usually soak them for a few days than pump them up in the diesel fuel a few times than rinse them with clean diesel. From there you can prime them with oil and install. The bigger hole in the revised lifter doesn't help the lifter be quieter. It is just there so that the less crud will remain in the lifter. If you look at the size of the hole in the rocker and that it is so small than the bigger hole in the lifter shouldn't make much of a difference.

Unless in this motor is different, you do not prime lifters with oil when replacing them, results could be very bad.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on these engines.

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[PieEyedPiper]

Unless in this motor is different, you do not prime lifters with oil when replacing them, results could be very bad.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on these engines.

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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/293331-lifter-ticking-how-prime.html
Post # 2
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-engine-fuel/265060-how-replace-lash-adjusters-lifters.html This is what's linked in Post # 2 from that thread.

It seems as though the people talking about it are confusing terms or that the terms themselves are confusing.
"Priming a lifter with oil" certainly doesn't make me think of draining it/cleaning it so that it easily collapses and is now ready for installation. Quite the opposite, actually.

It might be more clear if people would use the term "bleeding", without the inclusion of "priming", when talking about prepping their lifters for installation. Priming could just mean to lube up with a bit of oil - but I can easily see why someone might think that pumped up + install = good.

 

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Well they better get their terminology correct, from what the OP mentions I understood that he was getting them full of oil and to me that is priming just as you would do to a new rebuilt engine.

Do not ever prime lifters before install, oiling them yes but do not pump them full of oil.

I have seen this done many times and the results can be catastrophic.