How do i launch my AWD [Merged 6-7]

[DSMafia]

ah crap i forgot the website, but there is a place that will rebuild your tranny for 800 bux if you send them your core.... for around 1500 they'll upgrade everything in in and throw in shift forks and other such stuff....i'll look around tonight and see if i cant find the name of the site.... i think turbo guru has the site....

 

[Turbo Guru]

It's TRE (Team Rip Engineering) www.teamrip.com

Joe

 

[jretta91]

i don't think i'd ever be able to rebuil my tranny myself, that's a scary thought, but thanks for the links

 

[GalantVR41062]

Tranny rebuilds are not hard just watch were everything comes out of and how it came apart and put back together in reverse order, On the launch I would 1/4 slip 3/4 dump from 4200- 4500rpm just shift fast and hope for the best, and riding your clutch like an old lady will wear it out not dumping it. I launch and rev limiter but thats me.

 

[v8slayer]

Originally posted by GalantVR41062
Tranny rebuilds are not hard just watch were everything comes out of and how it came apart and put back together in reverse order, On the launch I would 1/4 slip 3/4 dump from 4200- 4500rpm just shift fast and hope for the best, and riding your clutch like an old lady will wear it out not dumping it. I launch and rev limiter but thats me.

Well why don't you let all of us know how to preload tapered bearings , measure back lash and inspect shafts for run out , for starters.

There is alot to check and do when re-building a transmission.
Some people can get away with a synchro change but this is a site for high performance DSM's so if you want a transmission to perform and last you best leave it to a pro or someone with equal experience or you will be getting a tow home from the track.

Just my 2 cents worth!

 

[Ludachris]

Originally posted by GalantVR41062
Tranny rebuilds are not hard just watch were everything comes out of and how it came apart and put back together in reverse order, On the launch I would 1/4 slip 3/4 dump from 4200- 4500rpm just shift fast and hope for the best, and riding your clutch like an old lady will wear it out not dumping it. I launch and rev limiter but thats me.

That's a pretty bold statement - I doubt that 90% of DSMers would be up for a tranny rebuild. I'm all for doing things yourself and learning, but I wouldn't try a rebuild unless I had a spare tranny laying around with a good backup plan in place.

 

[GSX2HOT4U]

i heard that goin through the water that th rear wheel drive guys use for burn outs help with awd launches cause u burn for a sec then take off like crazy????? don't know i still slip it with a centerforce dual friction but maybe now just dump it what u think?

 

[GalantVR41062]

I have taken down two dsm trannys with no problems just make sure you use the shims behind the races on teh bearing that were already there and the preload run out info look in the tranny books at Mitsu and for shaft run out us a micrometer info will also be in tranny book, or when you take the tranny apart you see the shafts flop around like dead fish anyway so as long as when you put new bearing in the shafts move less then befor and the tranny is not locked up I dont see a problem as long as you use a good press to take apart and re press everythig to and from the shafts. I made a comment thats it, if you dont want my imput thats fine I hate people to scared or ignorant that say o you cant do this because its better fot the "pro" who is a pro anyway?

~John
yah I did not go to school for mechanics for DSMs I am sorry but I think with the proper tools and a little common sense its not that hard to do anything.

 

[v8slayer]

Well you make it sound so cut and dry.
What happens if you have to replace a bearing or two?
The shims my need to be adjusted!
What about honing the synchro hubs?

The moral of this story is if your transmission needs a rebuild and not just a synchro job you will need to change some bearings , check bearing pre-load , bearing housing area in the case , back lash (tighter is not always better), fork pads , check shafts and magnaflux a few parts and do a few other things to do a proper job.

A good rebuild won't be done by remembering the reverse order of how it came a part. O

I can 75% garantee you will find more wrong than you will expect!

Be safe and be smart and you will continue to enjoy the DSM experience!

Just my 2 cents.

 

[GalantVR41062]

what ever
this sites ****

 

[Bohrn]

ok then, some critisism and now the whole site is "****"??

I tend to agree, a transmission, especially a modern import 5spd is NOT a simple thing like say a Saginaw 3spd. It will take some skill to do it properly, and just because the car made it to the gas station does not mean it was a good rebuild. Most of us want our trannys to last another 100k miles at least.

 

[DSM_TSI_AWD]

DSMafia

yeah on the forth one, stock blew up bad, then put in a jspec switch able tran, and that lasted like a week, then went with the a normal jspec and that last for 5 months, but i ripped into 3gear to fast(my #@%#@%#@%#@% up) and blew the shift fork (into 4 peaces and there are hanging on the wall at home ) and roll pin. so just fixed those two peaces and it is running fine. but i do need to do a full rebuild. 3 and 4 sycros are goin and it sucks it takes for ever to change gears. i am traping a 114 and only et is at 12.9 so i have about a half sec in shifting i need to work out.

adam

 

[91eagle_tsi_awd]

i know i might sound stupid ,but what do u mean by slipping the clutch?im lost

 

[RaysTsi]

slipping, gently letting off of the clutch with your left foot. or slowly releasing the clutch. dumping the clutch means that you just take your foot off it to put it in gear immediatly and violently.

 

[skawty]

dear god you guy rip your drivetrains up. i feel guilty slippin the clutch at under 4 grand....well i cant afford a tranny either...id most likely sell the car if my tranny gives...

 

[Ecstacyraver]

I made a thread in the turbo performance forum before... i wanted a 5spd... but i could not find one... Not to mention i found a 95 awd tsi in PERFECT condition with only 57k miles for 6grand. I dont care how much it costs i'll do a 5spd conversion eventually...

anyways..

As for racing with an auto... i read a thread on how to race an esi and i was wondering if its any different w/ a turbo awd?

Do i hold down the break and give it gas until i'm supposed to go? how high do i take it? also, do i do this in drive or do i use 1 and 2 and shift at redline? Sorry if i say some stupid things, i've never owned and auto before.

Thanks in advance.

 

[doug]

Originally posted by Ecstacyraver
As for racing with an auto... i read a thread on how to race an esi and i was wondering if its any different w/ a turbo awd?

Do i hold down the break and give it gas until i'm supposed to go? how high do i take it? also, do i do this in drive or do i use 1 and 2 and shift at redline? Sorry if i say some stupid things, i've never owned and auto before.

There's a very good thread at DSMtalk about this in the A/T forum.

 

[GalantVR41062]

sorry about saying that dsm trannys are easy and the stuff about the site was not called for.....
no one likes talking to me on line anyway.

 

[44pirate]

Originally posted by captconnels
hey can someone tell me a good way to launch in an awd?? i'm runnin roughly around 260hp in a 5spd 95 tsi awd, if someone could help me that would be great! thanx!!

Lower the air pressure in your tires to around 25 lbs this way you get a little spin out of them. This way you can launch at 5000 rpm. I have a stock clutch with 104,000 on it and I do launches at 5200 this way. I get 1.8-1.9 60'.If I launch any higher the clutch slips. You won't break anything with a stock clutch unless something is already weak. If you slip the clutch it will just heat up and slip more. Good Luck. YOu want to let out the clutch real fast to where it engages and then let it alll the way out. DOn't just side step it. hOpe that helps

 

[DeezNutsForYou]

I have seen many people get the tre and the galant vr4 first gear because they say it can get up to about 45mph. I barely get past 50 in second so, if someone had a lot of power(not me) could they launch in second. I have no idea about this, it was just a though because so many people talk about getting a different first gear, when 2nd is pretty close to that stock.

hope this doesn't qualify as a noob question

 

[Laser0385]

I think that would be a bad idea. That could be very hard on alot of parts, mainly the clutch. I think overall your car would be at you for doing such a terrible thing to it. I'm sure someone has done it and can tell you what happens

Jake

 

[Kingdom]

the tranny will probably launch with out if you do that.

 

[Defiant]

Test this on yourself: go to a nice flight of stairs, and start running up them making sure to step on every one.
Then try it by starting out hitting every step, but after about four steps change to every-other step.
Now wheeze back on down to the start, but let's try climbing up there by stepping on every _third_ step.
That's pretty much what you're asking your motor to do by starting in second. Your clutch will say terrible things about your mother just before it says "goodbye".

 

[DeezNutsForYou]

How much different is the galant vr4 first gear, or the TRE first gear. I don't think there would be much difference between those two, and my second gear.

does anyone really know tranmisions out there that could possible answer me. I'm not suggesting that I do it, because my car likes first gear rather well. I mean for the people running in the 12's

 

[autronicDSM]

Changing 1st gear does nothing to 2nd gear ratio so I don't see a point in what you ask? Just try luanching it, once won't do too much damage.