Help me fix my friend's problem???

[dalatinromeo]

Okay so my friend called me last night to see if I can help him see what is wrong or at least what caused his problem. He has a 2g AWD.

So heres the story.

He says he went to check his oil level to see where is, and notices the stick barely had anything on it. But for whatever reason he drove the car with was what to believe low or not much oil. So he is driving around,and notices the stock oil pressure gauge is on 0. The stick does not even move; not on start up, idling, or driving.

So it was time to change the oil, so he went to drain the oil, lots of oil drained out. He was wondering why did about 4 quarts of oil drain out, but when he went to check the dip stick there was barely any on the stick.

He went on with the oil changed. The oil presure gauge is still not moving.

So my main questions are:

1. Why did the dipstick show no oil on the stick, but when he went to do the oil change, about 4 quarts drained out??
2. What could have caused the stock oil pressure gauge not to move, and stay at zero?? What should I check for??

 

[awdtalontsi1992]

1. If you were really low on oil the motor would definately have make some sort of sound. A motor will to tell you when it's hurting. Were the lifters ticking unusually? I would suggest he fill the engine with the correct amount of oil and check it before he starts the engine. If it registers good then you maybe have been somewhat low on oil ,but not drastically low. If it still it's on the stick then I would say to check the dipstick tube and see if it is starting to pop up out of the block. Either way make sure that the tube is pushed all the way into the block.
2. This is curious when put in conjuction with question #1. If your car was low on oil then the gauge would change as the oil was moved around...during cornering, braking, etc. Also I know 1Gs have a low oil light. I'm not sure of 2Gs have one but if they did and the oil was that low than it would have come on. I would suggest your friend check the gauge wiring to see if it got damaged or fell off. My wire has fallen off the sensor a couple of times.....almost gave me a heart attack the first time it happened. If the wiring is good then I would say the sensor is probably bad.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Just to back that up,
Make sure that the dipstick is the proper one for that car. The stick could be from a different car and hence, too short. Also, awdtalontsi1992 is correct, search under the car near the oil filter housing. There should be a metallic looking object that looks like an internal wastegate actuator with a slip on connector. Make sure that is plugged in. If it is, then the sensor is most likely bad.

 

[v2ner]

^^that about covers everything I was going to say. I do have a question though...is it a 6-bolt?

 

[blkwidow]

And just to throw something out there, did he check it with the car started, or off? I know it may seem dumb, but some people forget.

 

[dalatinromeo]

1. If you were really low on oil the motor would definately have make some sort of sound. A motor will to tell you when it's hurting. Were the lifters ticking unusually?

This is what I told him. I will find out about the lifters ticking unusually tonight

I would suggest your friend check the gauge wiring to see if it got damaged or fell off. My wire has fallen off the sensor a couple of times.....almost gave me a heart attack the first time it happened. If the wiring is good then I would say the sensor is probably bad.

I'll go over to his house, and check out the wiring tonight

 

[dalatinromeo]

Just to back that up,
Make sure that the dipstick is the proper one for that car. The stick could be from a different car and hence, too short. Also, awdtalontsi1992 is correct, search under the car near the oil filter housing. There should be a metallic looking object that looks like an internal wastegate actuator with a slip on connector. Make sure that is plugged in. If it is, then the sensor is most likely bad.

You answered my next question, I was going to ask where the wiring is. Thanks

Oh yeah, yes the dipstick is the proper one. I broke his dipstick last year , and went to Chrysler to buy him a new one .

 

[awdtalontsi1992]

Glad to help. Good luck.

 

[dalatinromeo]

^^that about covers everything I was going to say. I do have a question though...is it a 6-bolt?

Not sure, why?? I highly doubt it is a 6 bolt. Unless the previous owner forgot to mention that it is a 6 bolt, then it is def a 7 bolt.

And just to throw something out there, did he check it with the car started, or off? I know it may seem dumb, but some people forget.

The car was off.

 

[v2ner]

sometimes, when swapping a 6-bolt into a 2G, the sensor wires are so dirty and corroded you have to cut it off. Hence, no info bein sent to the gauge.

 

[dalatinromeo]

sometimes, when swapping a 6-bolt into a 2G, the sensor wires are so dirty and corroded you have to cut it off. Hence, no info bein sent to the gauge.

Oh no the gauge has been working. He had the car for over a year already.