Help me find this fmic

[Spades]

Im looking for an FMIC with both inlet/outlet on the same side such as this pic below, it would sure make life much easier for us people with T28s wanting to upgrade to an FMIC. Someone on this site had one and i cant remember who it was, I sent him a PM asking where he got it from, says it was from ebay but i dont see any. Anyone know where I can find an IC with this configuration?

The pic is photoshopped to get my point across

 

[lowandsleekDSM]

I have kinda the same fmic. I found mine on ebay a couple years ago. I can't remember the manufacturer but I think like godspeed makes something like that, but they liike more like the triangular design like some spearco intercoolers are. I would try ebay first I think I have pics of my fmic in my profile pics somewhere to give u a better idea on what mine looks like. Good luck!

 

[delta448]

The endtanks aren't usually oriented that way on same side inlet/outlet intercoolers. Most of them are top-to-bottom flow instead of side-to-side. Here's a few top-to-bottom ones from eBay:

eBay Motors: Top to Bottom Single Turbo Intercooler 2.5" Same Side (item 310097777067 end time Dec-04-08 12:48:48 PST)

eBay Motors: LARGE TOP FLOW INTERCOOLER MUSTANG/SUPRA PROCHARGER (item 250331005099 end time Nov-30-08 16:42:30 PST)

eBay Motors: Buick Grand National, Nissan, Supra 600+ HP Intercooler (item 110316799435 end time Nov-30-08 16:28:57 PST)

If you really want a side-to-side configuration like that it might be easier to have one custom made. Vibrant Performance has cores and endtanks.

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

CXracing on ebay sells this one:

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Remember, If you get a side to side intercooler that has same side outlet/inlets the air will have to travel through the intercooler twice. If you get a top to bottom cooler like delta posted then the air will only travel through the intercooler once. Lots more efficient!!

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Or... you could just have your turbo's outlet chopped and rotated, and get a properly designed side to side setup that won't block ambient airflow to your radiator, as most top-bottom flow intercoolers will.

 

[yokotabrat]

RRE sells a Griffin/Spearco top to bottom flow intercooler that I've had pretty good luck with. RRE Intercoolers and Parts

 

[jking29]

What about this one in the classifieds? Message - DSM Classifieds

 

[bluetlr2001]

Here is you a link to a pipe that will allow you to run a side to side intercooler with your t-28. I have the same pipe and it works well with my SSAC fmic. And it goes over the cross member so you dont loose any clearence to the ground. Just have to trim some on your radiator fan or if you have a slim fan you will have no problem.

ETS (95-99) 2G DSM Eclipse/Talon T25 Pipe [ 2GDSM_T25 ]

 

[turbolarry]

It's suppost to be for a 420a, but you might be able to install it upside down and get creative with the piping???
Hahn Racecraft - Turbo Upgrades and Parts

 

[DGajre777]

I have an SSAC FMIC with a 180 deg. pipe for my T25 and have no issues.

As for the FMIC you are looking for - no clue. Try eBay.

 

[bmoha2]

Suggest the Hahn Racecraft FMIC. That's a pretty well thought out kickass design and because Hahn's intercoolers are well known for efficiency, it will have very low pressure drop.

 

[noonan98turbo]

I just chopped the turbo outlet off of my t25 and welded it facing the driver side so that I could run a side to side intercooler. Im looking to upgrade to an FP big28 and Im probably just going to do the same as I did for the t25. It works so I cant complain.

 

[Spades]

I have kinda the same fmic. I found mine on ebay a couple years ago. I can't remember the manufacturer but I think like godspeed makes something like that, but they liike more like the triangular design like some spearco intercoolers are. I would try ebay first I think I have pics of my fmic in my profile pics somewhere to give u a better idea on what mine looks like. Good luck!

Hey whats up man, you were the person I was referring to that I PMd, couldnt remember your username. I see the pic in your profile, that is exactly what im looking for either that or the one ProjectGS posted.
Anyway to the others, Im aware of the Dejon or ETS 180 degree piping, I know it will work but im not liking that sharp U bend, I also thought about modifying the compressor outlet, I would do it as my last resort. I think the simpler setup would be the outlets on the same side just like lowandsleekDSM's setup

 

[crimsondragon]

It's suppost to be for a 420a, but you might be able to install it upside down and get creative with the piping???
Hahn Racecraft - Turbo Upgrades and Parts

I have seen people use it on the 4g63. Hell I was debating either this or ETS. The only drawback is you'll most likely have to use the stock piping route which is lonnngggggg.

 

[dsm-onster]

Or... you could just have your turbo's outlet chopped and rotated, and get a properly designed side to side setup that won't block ambient airflow to your radiator, as most top-bottom flow intercoolers will.

Not sure what you mean. Could you explain? my side to side intercooler takes up just as much frontal area as similarly sized top to bottem flow intercoolers. . .

 

[delta448]

I think he's referring to the endtanks getting in the way with a top-to-bottom core.

I don't think that's an issue with preventing radiator airflow though, unless the two are mounted against each other or the radiator has ducting fabbed to seal it to the bumper opening.

 

[bmoha2]

It worked freakin sweet with custom intercooler tubing. My friend just turned it around so both inlet and outlet are on the passenger side. I saw one on ebay for fairly cheap recently.

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

Just get the damn "U" pipe from ETS. Problem solved.

 

[Spades]

Yeah the Hahn Racecraft 420a FMIC would be an ideal setup as well, that thing is sweet!!

Just get the damn "U" pipe from ETS. Problem solved.

As stated above, I know the "U" pipe will work, but Id rather go this route or custom HRC setup

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[delta448]

I really hope there's a divider inside the endtank between the inlet and outlet of that thing. Looks questionable.

If the divider was indeed cast in the endtank design, I know I'd still hate to be the poor sap trying to weld/braze delicate aluminum at that sharp angle through a hole the size of the inlet or outlet on that thing.

 

[Marc91GSX]

Yeah the Hahn Racecraft 420a FMIC would be an ideal setup as well, that thing is sweet!!



As stated above, I know the "U" pipe will work, but Id rather go this route or custom HRC setup

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I always love the lets blow wind into a brick wall and expect no resistence philosophy that seems to prevelant in the I'm too lazy to run pipe category of IC design. Two major flaws with that design.

1) The air is being forced into a flat surface. Why is this bad? Well go outside and spray a water hose strait at the wall of your house and see what happens to the flow of water. Then aim the hose at the wall from an angle and notice the difference.

2) Both the inlet and the outlet are on the same tank. If you have ever seen a thermal image of an intercooler when it is operating you will notice that inlet tank is usually 70 to 100 degrees hotter than the outlet. When they are the same peice of metal then the heat from the inlet will carry over directly to the outlet partially offsetting the cooling effect of the intercooler itself.

 

[dsm-onster]

'He who live in a glass house. . .'

We all do things for the sake of ease or cost effectiveness. You paid for or spent HOURS porting the ev3 exhaust manifold built for the turbo you installed. All you had to do was get the seal ring. You would have saved spool speed and flow by having not such a drastic increase in collector volume that results from porting the evo3 exhaust manifold and 7cm^2 turbine housing (hopefully you at least ported that too???).

Let's not just bash this guy for choosing this setup. After all, he may have goals that allow him to use a lower flowing intercooler design. Give the devil his due. This design does allow the engine bay to look more stock. Let's chill. You know how a pee stream works and this guy is looking for somthing that will not do the best. It's ok to get what you want, if you're the one who has to pay for it.

 

[delta448]

Not bashing, just hoping to enlighten.
I purchase most of my parts with my eye on the price tag first.

I just think some modification may be in order for that design if the plumbed endtank isn't also a divided one. It may not have been the one I'd have picked, but that shouldn't mean I can't help him figure out how to make it function better. Here's what I'd do, I'd cut out where I marked the red lines and reweld it with two small flat pieces in a "V":

 

[Spades]

You gotta look at the setup as a whole... factor in the ETS or Dejon 180 degree piping with a side-side IC and I can say I do NOT like the idea of my turbo pointing to the passenger side, then take a sharp U turn and head to the driver side and then make another U turn to enter the IC. Sure the cooling is better with the side-side IC, but I think flow would be much better in terms of CFMs with my intended setup... Dont just focus on the IC itself as those 2 U bends cannot go unignored with the side-side setup. For those with 16G setups or 50 trims sure Id agree with you on the side-side setup as I used to have one myself in my previous DSM, but this time around Ive got a T28 and that must be taken into consideration and not just the IC itself

BTW I verified with the ebay seller of the IC that ProjectGS suggested and it does indeed have the divider between the ports, im pretty sure the others do to, thats a no brainer Id say

 

[pboglio]

The pressure drop thru that core has to be obscene, I see no other way. You are talking an intercooler half the height of a standard FMIC per pass, and 2 times longer. HAHN racecrafts FMIC has a crossover tube disguised going over the top of the intercooler and bears no resemblence to this one.