Help me choose a suspension setup

[Gostlrs]

When I bought the car it had KYB Struts & eibach 1.7in lowering springs. I replaced the tires & ball joints 8K miles ago & both ball joints are shot again & the right inner tire is cupped really bad. The rt wheel bearing is a bit loose so i am thinking that is why they are cupped.

I am tired of the low clearance. So i plan on getting new rims & tires. I also want to get my suspension set up right at the same time. So i need some advice.

I am thinking about going with stock springs & nice struts set up & some 19in rims

or

1in lowering springs & front/rear camber kits with some 18s

Which set up do you think would be the best.

Anyone got some pics of stock set up with 18s or 19s on it...or a set up with 1in lowering springs

Here is how mine looks with 1.7in springs & stock 17s

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[PieEyedPiper]

What is your budget? Especially after you factor in new control arms, a new wheel bearing and new tie rods.

 

[Gostlrs]

Already put new arms on & tie rods, they are still good.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Soo... how about that budget?

 

[Flash]

Zeal Function X. I love mine. Pricey, but they're very nice!

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Zeal Function X. I love mine. Pricey, but they're very nice!

Better than the Variant 3's?

 

[Gostlrs]

Not too worried on price, are those coil overs? photos?

 

[PieEyedPiper]

If you're not worried about price, then get one of these. Hell, get a set of each.
http://www.endlessusa.com/#!__suspension-kit/function-x
KW coilover Variant 3 /// Coilovers with State-of-the-art technology from motor sports

Zeal Function-X Coilovers Mitsubishi Eclipse AWD 95-99
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/variant-coilover-mitsubishi-eclipse-9599-p-14422.html

 

[TSiAWD666]

Get KW Variant 3s custom tuned by Robispec.

 

[daren_p]

IMO, stock ride will look dumb with any rim combo (monster truck look). Don't run 19's, if your interested in performance at all, stick to 18's max. Ideal would be 1-1.5" drop as 2g's don't have alot of suspension travel.

What kind of performance are you looking for? (do you just want a lower/better then stock ride or do you want performance/might track the car) & when you say not worried on price, whats the limit (as coilovers can run well more then most cars are worth on this site).

At min, I would recommend Koni Yellows & Ground Control coilovers. Lots of info on here for this setup, will run you around $1K & probably best bang for the buck.

If you want to get more serious, I'd recommend the custom "DG" setup. It will run you around the $2K or so mark but will offer the best bang for the buck performance, for an actual good performaning setup.

Most other coilovers look pretty, but are junk as far as performance is concerned.

 

[Silver99OZ]

If you just want struts and springs, the tokico illuminas along with the eibach pro kit springs would be a nice choice.

 

[Gostlrs]

Since my ball joints are already shot & need replaced should i just pick up this camber kit for the front & get one for the rear? I think I might be happy with the lowering if it was set right.

Ingalls Adjustable Front Ball Joint 95-99 Eclipse/Talon - CI Motorsports

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Already put new arms on & tie rods, they are still good.

Since my ball joints are already shot & need replaced should i just pick up this camber kit for the front & get one for the rear? I think I might be happy with the lowering if it was set right.

Ingalls Adjustable Front Ball Joint 95-99 Eclipse/Talon - CI Motorsports

Sounds like you're getting ahead of yourself. First you've repaired your car, then price is no object, then your car still needs to be repaired and finally you want to make the setup you have now work/get an alignment.

 

[Gostlrs]

Just looking for the overall best way to go. It needs ball joints...It need an alinement anyways. My drop setup now is a good setup, not cheap ebay springs & struts. So since i need to replace the joints, maybe i should just use the camber kit, keep the setup & move on...

trying to weigh all the options I have

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Of course you should use the camber kit. You should have been using it all along.

Complete the repairs on your vehicle.

 

[Gostlrs]

Of course you should use the camber kit. You should have been using it all along.

Complete the repairs on your vehicle.

I got the car & It was lowered, I was hoping to redo the suspension when I got new rims but it did not make it that far.

Is using the upper camber kit any better then using the lower (ball joint) one ?

 

[jtmcinder]

Is using the upper camber kit any better then using the lower (ball joint) one ?

There's a lower ball-joint camber kit for the front of 2Gs? How [the heck] does that work? And what does it do to the bump-steer?

 

[jtmcinder]

Of course you should use the camber kit. You should have been using it all along.

Not sure that I agree about this. The front camber gained by lowering is fine for an AWD. Just zero the toe if you're worried about tread-wear. Yes, you'd want more for autocrossing, just as a FWD will want less for launching. But a mostly street-driven AWD 2G has just about the right front camber after lowering without any kits.

The rear, however, will have too much camber after lowering, so spacers behind the inboard ends of the upper arms are key. This will also allow you to run a smidgeon of rear toe-in for stability.

 

[Zdrummer15]

IMO, stock ride will look dumb with any rim combo (monster truck look). Don't run 19's, if your interested in performance at all, stick to 18's max. Ideal would be 1-1.5" drop as 2g's don't have alot of suspension travel.

What kind of performance are you looking for? (do you just want a lower/better then stock ride or do you want performance/might track the car) & when you say not worried on price, whats the limit (as coilovers can run well more then most cars are worth on this site).

At min, I would recommend Koni Yellows & Ground Control coilovers. Lots of info on here for this setup, will run you around $1K & probably best bang for the buck.

If you want to get more serious, I'd recommend the custom "DG" setup. It will run you around the $2K or so mark but will offer the best bang for the buck performance, for an actual good performaning setup.

Most other coilovers look pretty, but are junk as far as performance is concerned.

+1 on everything mentioned here. I love the Koni Yellow and Ground Control set-up for the money. If you don't want to pay more than 2 grand for coilovers and want a suspension that is actually decent around a track, go with this.

 

[Gostlrs]

Sounds like a endless battle..HA HA

I had no rear wear after 8K of driving on the tires. My inner fronts are cupped and worn. I know its mostly due to the bad joints. I dont like the look of the car with the wheel angled so much. The camber kit should help the car sit more level right.

 

[jtmcinder]

And you say that there's a kit that alters 2G front camber via a replacement lower ball joint???

 

[Gostlrs]

Since my ball joints are already shot & need replaced should i just pick up this camber kit for the front & get one for the rear? I think I might be happy with the lowering if it was set right.

Ingalls Adjustable Front Ball Joint 95-99 Eclipse/Talon - CI Motorsports

Yes they have both types on their site.

 

[TSiAWD666]

There's a lower ball-joint camber kit for the front of 2Gs? How [the heck] does that work? And what does it do to the bump-steer?

I struggled with this for a bit and I think when he wrote "upper" he meant the anchors for the upper a-arm, and by "lower" he was referring to the upper a-arm ball joint replacement.

 

[jtmcinder]

He must have. It's not really possible to alter the lower ball joint. You'd also have to alter the compression arm, etc, and I doubt any of it would be strong enough. The Ingalls thing is for the upper ball joint and should really be avoided if at all possible. It eats up a ton of suspension travel.

Also, deleting front camber is really only required for launching a FWD. No AWD person with less than, say, 400 hp or really really crappy tires and a commitment to drag racing really needs to reduce their front camber.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Not sure that I agree about this. The front camber gained by lowering is fine for an AWD. Just zero the toe if you're worried about tread-wear. Yes, you'd want more for autocrossing, just as a FWD will want less for launching. But a mostly street-driven AWD 2G has just about the right front camber after lowering without any kits.

The rear, however, will have too much camber after lowering, so spacers behind the inboard ends of the upper arms are key. This will also allow you to run a smidgeon of rear toe-in for stability.

I was only talking about the rear. Figured you'd give me more credit than that. It should be common knowledge that the front doesn't usually need a kit.

EDIT: Oh, serves me right for not clicking the link. I ASSumed he was talking about a rear kit... you know..cause you don't need one for the front! Sorry OP, if my post was misleading.

IMO, stock ride will look dumb with any rim combo (monster truck look).

Whose got the stock ride height?

My drop setup now is a good setup,

Sorry bro, Gr-2's and Sportlines aren't "good".

Let us know when you've repaired the car.

The Ingalls thing is for the upper ball joint and should really be avoided if at all possible. It eats up a ton of suspension travel.

Agreed, I'd prefer an eccentric anchor bolt setup.