headgasket

[PandaTalon]

well i just bought mt dsm about a week ago w/ a "Blown 20g" and etc. (check the mods list) and it had the compresser wheels blocked off, and no actuator i guess so it didnt attempt to spool so i replaced it with a stock 14b, and as soon as i started it up nothing but white smoke but it didnt smoke when i had the blown 20g on it, so nothing to it i paid $20 for the 14b so i was like whatever you get what you pay for, so i went out and bought a rebuilt 16g, and after running around because i had to figure out the hard way that the oil feed line and coolant banjo bolts wouldnt fit the 16g i finally installed the 16g and guess what i found?MORE WHITE SMOKE!!!!! so i came to the conclusion that it has a bad headgasket.

it "HAS" a mits. 3 layer headgasket, arp, bolts and etc.

What headgasket, timing belt, waterpump, bet tensioner should i consider?

should i do a compression test first?

What steps should i take?

 

[habitatguy187]

Yes do a compression test first, has the car overheated at all?

 

[94_eclipse]

ill buy that 14b off your hands if your interested. pm me

but do a compression test to make sure. It does sound like a headgasket

An oem headgasket would do the trick unless you plan on running alot of boost. Alot of guys on here are running them at 15 psi all day long with arp head studs.

 

[PandaTalon]

Yes do a compression test first, has the car overheated at all?

no it never over heated

 

[PandaTalon]

ill buy that 14b off your hands if your interested. pm me

but do a compression test to make sure. It does sound like a headgasket

An oem headgasket would do the trick unless you plan on running alot of boost. Alot of guys on here are running them at 15 psi all day long with arp head studs.

well i might do a comression test some time this weekend but iam def not gonna do stock hg

and idk if iam parting w/ the 14b just yet but i have a holset hx35 4/s

 

[habitatguy187]

well i might do a comression test some time this weekend but iam def not gonna do stock hg

and idk if iam parting w/ the 14b just yet but i have a holset hx35 4/s

The stock headgasket is good for 9s. You'll be fine with the stock one.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

The stock headgasket is good for 9s. You'll be fine with the stock one.

Agreed. If a mitsu MLS has indeed blown, chances are your mating surfaces are warped. You need to get BOTH the block and head checked for flatness and milled/decked appropriately. I would run an OEM headgasket if you are never planning to go over 30psi. If you do go with an MLS, make absolutely sure you know what you are doing before you step into it, or else you'll be replacing another head gasket shortly.

Do a compression and leak down test, asap. Although it already seems as if the HG has blown itself.

 

[PandaTalon]

ok i did the compression test and my results are

160, 155, 155, 160

so my mechanic coached me over the phone and told me to check the turbo by blocking off the feed and starting the car and what do you know the smoking stoped so iam guessing the "rebuilt turbo" is bad

 

[TalonTime]

Go with the Fel-Pro mls gasket. It's pretty much the best out there. That's what I'm going with. Also running a holest, and nothing sounds better than them . Her's a link for the gasket.
Fel-Pro PermaTorque MLS Head Gasket for Mitsubishi 4G63 90-99 [1153-1] - $230.00 : Jay Racing

 

[TalonTime]

Agreed. If a mitsu MLS has indeed blown, chances are your mating surfaces are warped. You need to get BOTH the block and head checked for flatness and milled/decked appropriately. I would run an OEM headgasket if you are never planning to go over 30psi. If you do go with an MLS, make absolutely sure you know what you are doing before you step into it, or else you'll be replacing another head gasket shortly.

Do a compression and leak down test, asap. Although it already seems as if the HG has blown itself.

I blew mine at 30psi. I wouldn't go with a stock one. Just my .02

 

[habitatguy187]

If you do go with an MLS, make absolutely sure you know what you are doing before you step into it, or else you'll be replacing another head gasket shortly.

^^^ Wiseman^^^

What are your goals for this car? If you're not planning on building an all out monster, don't waste your money on things you don't need, like an mls headgasket.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

I blew mine at 30psi. I wouldn't go with a stock one. Just my .02

Eh, I should have corrected myself, I must be getting rusty. Using a stock HG and if it's feasible is always dependant on the application. I suggested a stock HG due to the OP's moderate mod list, so it may be different than yours. I myself have ran an aggressive tune with meth with my 50 trim at 30-33psi for some time now with zero ill effects nor are pushing any coolant. So yes, doing research on goals, future mods, tuning ability, etc. will all affect which choice of HG someone should make.

 

[PandaTalon]

ok i did the compression test and my results are

160, 155, 155, 160

so my mechanic coached me over the phone and told me to check the turbo by blocking off the feed and starting the car and what do you know the smoking stoped so iam guessing the "rebuilt turbo" is bad

so does my compression check out? and do i need a restrictor for the 16g turbo?

 

[PandaTalon]

^^answers any1?

 

[habitatguy187]

Compression is fine, pretty good actually.

 

[TalonTime]

Eh, I should have corrected myself, I must be getting rusty. Using a stock HG and if it's feasible is always dependant on the application. I suggested a stock HG due to the OP's moderate mod list, so it may be different than yours. I myself have ran an aggressive tune with meth with my 50 trim at 30-33psi for some time now with zero ill effects nor are pushing any coolant. So yes, doing research on goals, future mods, tuning ability, etc. will all affect which choice of HG someone should make.

I agree. I would just go with a better HG just because if you do plan on modding in the future you will be prepared. So spends the extra money and then not worrying about redoing the HG in the future will just be a bonus. Plus you would have to pull you head again .

 

[fwdmaster]

so does my compression check out? and do i need a restrictor for the 16g turbo?

Your compression is great,you don't need an oil restrictor for a 16g,just run it from the head

 

[PandaTalon]

Your compression is great,you don't need an oil restrictor for a 16g,just run it from the head

cool thanks i guess it was just a blown turbo