Guys what do you think about this sheetmetal intake manifold is it worth it?

[Revolution]

Omg I need an advil real bad after reading this turd.

I will be the very first to say that I dont know everything , I dont know alot about suspension ,nor about compresion ,nor custom fiberglss components but I do know when I read stupid turd ,and Thats all I read with the exceptions of only two.

If you have something negative to say to someone pm them ,I dont want to read asto why their talking out of their ass ,tell a mod and have them clean up the thread.

In all honesty their are tons of smim threads out their ,and the thread starter could have come up with his/her own conclusions from research.

Now to make things clear a smim is a great addition to a motor ,and like Hal so nicley put it ,the smim is basically a way of trading off rpms and power spikes .

Do you think you make power from a big intercooler? Of course because the cooler the air the more dence it becomes = more power.

But did you know that you not only hurt the spool but you sacrifice torque in the meantime.

I think if anybody was going to spend their money they should really look at whatthey want from their car.

I own a magnus intake and run it on my car ,I never noticed a difference in the mid range but i did feel the car pull more after 5000 .

Now the way I look at my car is a huge smorgess board of compensation . I got en evo turbo to give me a mid range ,I got the cams to give me a more aggresive mid to high rpm range wich works wonders with the intake mani.

If I really wanted to I could bump the displacment up to 2.25 L and regain all if not mor torque.

An engine is like legos some parts will feed off of eachother better if they all did a specific job that compliments another.

If you where to tell me a smim didnt make any power ,Id laugh in you'r face because you'r obviously missing something in you'r program.

Ppl will always talk smack and it pisses me right off , if you dont have first hand experience then dont post AT ALL.

And a perfect example would be this thread

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159161

All im reading is alot of members getting on their knees in public and going down on shearer .

I know marco personally ,but you dont see me doing that. I wouldnt comment about anything unless i tried it ,or have it ,I wouldnt even post about it if it happend to a good friend.

Point being if you know the guy,, great make a new thread about how he's great and all , or how you baught his overly priced o2 housings and how it had all of tinker bells fairy dust in it and it made you'r car fly.

Some members on hear are really cool and know their stuff , but unless you busted a few knuckels doing the stuff you'r self and have REAL WORLD INFO shut the &^%$# up.

God danm all I needed to hear was that marco's mani made on average 40 hp from mid to top end on an evo 16g and t28 for me to be sold.

I took the time and really thought about what i wanted, I suggest most members do to.

Now about being cheap, theirs nothing wrong with it but a great deal is different from getting a peice of crap for more money then it's worth.

Funny how every one said my kou mani would crack and destroy itself on me, well what ended up being an ssautochrome mani withstood minus 20 winter days with all the slush and snow b4 I put the car down recently ,and guess what not one crack what so ever.

But that mani had a design that I admiered and made sense to me , that tool box from e-bay is in my opinion a pos ,just by looking at it's flange .

Take a second and think about what i said ,research and come up with you'r own logical advice , then share you'r thoughts in an educated /decent written paragraph.

Im done with my rant's if i pissed any body off ,ask you'r self why you'r pissed ,and realize that all I've said was just the truth.

 

[anconover]

that was like the longest, most useless post to this thread yet. Maybe the entire forum.

Just close this useless crap down. The manifold is crap, the information is crap like alot of the information on this forum lately.

:thumbdown

 

[MattnGsx]

that was like the longest, most useless post to this thread yet. Maybe the entire forum.

Just close this useless crap down. The manifold is crap, the information is crap like alot of the information on this forum lately.

:thumbdown

:laugh: :laugh:

Hey stop spreading misinfo, there is more useless thread's then just this one. I have to agree that alot of info lately has been crap. :thumbdown

 

[turbotalon92]

Omg I need an advil real bad after reading this turd.

I will be the very first to say that I dont know everything , I dont know alot about suspension ,nor about compresion ,nor custom fiberglss components but I do know when I read stupid turd ,and Thats all I read with the exceptions of only two.

If you have something negative to say to someone pm them ,I dont want to read asto why their talking out of their ass ,tell a mod and have them clean up the thread.

In all honesty their are tons of smim threads out their ,and the thread starter could have come up with his/her own conclusions from research.

Now to make things clear a smim is a great addition to a motor ,and like Hal so nicley put it ,the smim is basically a way of trading off rpms and power spikes .

Do you think you make power from a big intercooler? Of course because the cooler the air the more dence it becomes = more power.

But did you know that you not only hurt the spool but you sacrifice torque in the meantime.

I think if anybody was going to spend their money they should really look at whatthey want from their car.

I own a magnus intake and run it on my car ,I never noticed a difference in the mid range but i did feel the car pull more after 5000 .

Now the way I look at my car is a huge smorgess board of compensation . I got en evo turbo to give me a mid range ,I got the cams to give me a more aggresive mid to high rpm range wich works wonders with the intake mani.

If I really wanted to I could bump the displacment up to 2.25 L and regain all if not mor torque.

An engine is like legos some parts will feed off of eachother better if they all did a specific job that compliments another.

If you where to tell me a smim didnt make any power ,Id laugh in you'r face because you'r obviously missing something in you'r program.

Ppl will always talk smack and it pisses me right off , if you dont have first hand experience then dont post AT ALL.

And a perfect example would be this thread

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159161

All im reading is alot of members getting on their knees in public and going down on shearer .

I know marco personally ,but you dont see me doing that. I wouldnt comment about anything unless i tried it ,or have it ,I wouldnt even post about it if it happend to a good friend.

Point being if you know the guy,, great make a new thread about how he's great and all , or how you baught his overly priced o2 housings and how it had all of tinker bells fairy dust in it and it made you'r car fly.

Some members on hear are really cool and know their stuff , but unless you busted a few knuckels doing the stuff you'r self and have REAL WORLD INFO shut the &^%$# up.

God danm all I needed to hear was that marco's mani made on average 40 hp from mid to top end on an evo 16g and t28 for me to be sold.

I took the time and really thought about what i wanted, I suggest most members do to.

Now about being cheap, theirs nothing wrong with it but a great deal is different from getting a peice of crap for more money then it's worth.

Funny how every one said my kou mani would crack and destroy itself on me, well what ended up being an ssautochrome mani withstood minus 20 winter days with all the slush and snow b4 I put the car down recently ,and guess what not one crack what so ever.

But that mani had a design that I admiered and made sense to me , that tool box from e-bay is in my opinion a pos ,just by looking at it's flange .

Take a second and think about what i said ,research and come up with you'r own logical advice , then share you'r thoughts in an educated /decent written paragraph.

Im done with my rant's if i pissed any body off ,ask you'r self why you'r pissed ,and realize that all I've said was just the truth.

I like to point out when people talk out of their ass, seems all this ^^^ is just that? You say (I am sure it was directed at me) not to put people down on the thread but PM them. Maybe you are addressing HAL however, because he commented on how someone was posting the wrong information also. However you just insulted everone on 2 threads except for your 2 people.

I know alot of shit, not everything, and my car speaks for itself as do my knuckles. I used Marco's manifold also and have real world results. My car was featured on his site before it was redesigned and I don't know him personally.

Anyways, I have to agree with you, I know a turd when I see it! :laugh: and maybe I am made because the truth hurts!!

 

[Revolution]

Hmm since some members think I directly made comments about them in public I will show what two posts made sense to me.


Post number 1} ------------------------------------------------------------


People often equate the quality of fit & finish with how well something will perform.

In reality, the two are not always linked.

On the other hand, something that performs well but is unappealing to the eye will not sell very well.

Making performance claims for any given manifold is ludicrous unless you can demonstrate actual gains and document the testing.

A 20whp h/p gain means nothing if you can't say WHERE in the rpm curve the gain was made. More importantly what were the LOSSES in torque and where did they occur?

I have seen intake manifolds that offer great gains in one area and huge loses in others.

I have seen intake manifolds that flow WORSE than stock at ALL points.

Manifolds are "purpose built", in that they are designed to improve performance in a specific area.

You need to match you manifold to your needs. A manifold that doesn't make power until 7000 rpms does you no good unless you spend a great deal of your "racing" at rpm levels above that.

A mismatched manifold will hurt your overall performance, just like choosing the wrong cams or the wrong turbocharger.

Hal

Now lets look at post number 2}-------------------------------------------------------------


I think you mean to say that a manifold with a greater vol. efficiency has the POTENTIAL to make more power on a motor that is moving more air (which is not caused by the internals themselves, but is from increasing the boost over the point that stock internals can handle).

I think this whole thing in general could be compared to an exhaust. Take a stock DSM, and throw a 3" turboback on it. It will experience a gain in power. Take a DSM pushing 400hp (and using stock exhaust) and slap the 3" turboback on there; you will see a much larger gain from that exhaust.

Everyone is right when they say pistons wont due anything. They just have the potential to support more power and flow more air, better utilizing the characteristics of a SMIM.

It is all a matter of where your bottleneck in the system is. For most, it is definately not the intake mani.

--Dan
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Now when speaking about a s/m intake manifold these posts stayed true to the topic at hand . Now in regards to the e-bay manifold wich this thread was intended for ,My opinion is it's not worth more then a paper wait .

Im glad that turbotalon92 has a magnus mani and maybe you could post about you'r experiences with it in another thread .

Now I really dont care who was upset or not the point of the matter is, this thread sucked hard and should be deleated .

I agree the truth hurts and so do knuckels but then again im a mauy tai kind of guy . All in all these two posts made sense to me above and over every other topic related post. So deal with it.

Im a very logical kind of guy and their has been alot of bull info in this section lately because of threads like this. Im not saying the modds arent doing their job ,what i am saying is the members have to raise the bar back to where it was b4 where the info is actually relevent and worth while.

P.s I really dont think you should be hurt by anything I have written but rather take things as if it where constructive critisism .

with this being said i really think this thread should be closed. And lost forever .

 

[turbotalon92]

I wasn't hurt Spock, so don't feel bad? We have strayed so far off-topic it's not logical
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[anconover]

another useless and much much too long post.

close this thread.