GT3582HTA vs FP3065

[ozzie_1978]

I was originally looking at getting a GT3582HTA but theres a FP3065 for sale local, not cheap either, about the same price as I can get the GT3582HTA. Does the FP3065 compare to the GT3582HTA?

 

[ozzie_1978]

should i just wait or what?

 

[CanadianTSi]

Well one is bolt-on and the other is not... So i guess it depends on what your setup for.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

Technically, can't both use the FP30 housing?

 

[dSmgs-T]

i believe FP just came out with a 35 turbo, not positive though

 

[ozzie_1978]

yup, thats what the GT3582HTA is

 

[CanadianTSi]

Technically, can't both use the FP30 housing?

Yes you can get the 3582HTA in the FP bolt-on housing.

It spools a couple hundred RPM's faster and has an advantage in spool up the whole time, like for instance on the same setup it was making 8psi more at 4000rpm's compared to the 3065.

 

[rarson]

It spools a couple hundred RPM's faster and has an advantage in spool up the whole time, like for instance on the same setup it was making 8psi more at 4000rpm's compared to the 3065.

Wow, really? That's a pretty big difference. This is with the same turbine housing, right?

Good info.

 

[haioku-rocket]

Mitsu bolt on housings give up some power. The volutes are not the most efficient.

the HTA will make much better power, and spool faster.

 

[CanadianTSi]

Wow, really? That's a pretty big difference. This is with the same turbine housing, right?

Good info.

Yes this is in FP's Cast Housing.

 

[TSIMonsteR]

Good information there. Sounds like the HTA is the definite winner

 

[ozzie_1978]

yeah, I think I'd rather wait for the HTA, I think I'm going to be more likely to use the full potential of it. I don't want to be limited with the other one. He did call me last night though, he said he'd let it go for 3600$ with the AEM EMS.

 

[Supa Dexta]

For what the 3065 and ems? Thats not a deal.. WTF

 

[ozzie_1978]

I didn't think so either

 

[Supa Dexta]

Considering I see AEM go for 8-900 used at times, and a new turbo is what, 1200-1700 depending on what you actually go with.. You'd be best off to buy everything new yourself, then second hand for new prices.

 

[ozzie_1978]

I'm going to go with the new FP GT3582HTA and find a used EMS.

 

[Supa Dexta]

Exactly, So they are in the $1700 range I believe? add TOPS 2000 for aem and you sitting at the price buddy wants for a smaller turbo and used gear, not sure where he gets that figure.

And I'm not one to doubt decisions/ or sway peoples choices, but the HTA's seem pretty pricey to me. I paid what some would consider a premium to buy a borg, but it's still hundreds less then that, and can make more power.

 

[ozzie_1978]

The HTA part is why it's pricey, spools way faster and I'm going for a very quick revving and spooling setup.

He is including a 3" o2 housing and a few other smaller miscellaneous items but still not close to being worth it IMO

 

[paul s]

I have the 3582hta in my talon and it works awsome, I did have the 3065 last year on the car. You gain a lot of torque in the low end..

 

[ozzie_1978]

How long did you wait for your HTA?

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Mitsu bolt on housings give up some power. The volutes are not the most efficient.

the HTA will make much better power, and spool faster.

I thought the T3 housing gave more power?

Does anyone know what is the max. power the GT3582HTA is capable of and the full spool time is? There's so much talk on how good this turbo is. I might consider switching to it from the HX-40.

 

[ozzie_1978]

The T3 housing does give more power, he said the mitsu housing gives up some power.

 

[paul s]

I had to wait 3 weeks to get it.

 

[ozzie_1978]

Thats not that bad, Dennty4 has been waiting about 5 weeks now I think.

 

[yokotabrat]

I have the 3582hta in my talon and it works awsome, I did have the 3065 last year on the car. You gain a lot of torque in the low end..

Was swapping from the 3065 to the HTA the only change you made? What turbine housing do you have on your HTA? Any logs that you can post up showing the difference in spool? Any difference in boost recovery between the two turbos? Thanks!