2G GM MAFT?

[sweet97]

but do you get my point im trying to make sweet97?

Since I don't use nor intend to use an safc i really do not understand but that's OK. I also have my filter outside the engine bay in the stock IC location and have pics but would have to email them to anyone interested.
I am happy with my set-up and I am confidant i will be able to tune 20PSI on pump with the translator and AFPR. Mark

 

[98spydert]

I personally could care less about venting, but being able to remove that huge restriction on the intake and then being able to run the air intake out side of the car I feel is benefical enough for me to get a Maf-t even while having a flashed eprom or a safc.

I really don't remember why I bought the MAF-t set up... but none of that crap means anything compaired to how smooth my car runs with the maft. While on and off light throttle around town, while accelerating, wow what a difference. I'd pay for that again even without the venting, intake options, and other little things that make it nice.

 

[Project ES]

From what i am gathering from the multiple threads on these items, the GM Maft is a lil more user friendly to the inexperienced tuner in the sense that w/ the plug in computer and sensor the gm maft is more of a self adjusting devices that reads the new sensor measurements and adjusts according to the sensor. (increasing reliability in climate changes w/o adjustment) The Super AFC seems to be more for the experienced tuner that wants more power over manipulating their motor to run how they want it. (requireing re-tuning every time the weather substatially changes). Having both and zeroing out the Translator to use the AFC is pretty much just an airflow mod that allows more air through the system than the stock equipment and is just slightly easier to adjust and make corrections from in the car w/ the nice display and buttons. This is what im understanding from these threads, please correct me if im wrong.

 

[98spydert]

From what i am gathering from the multiple threads on these items, the GM Maft is a lil more user friendly to the inexperienced tuner in the sense that w/ the plug in computer and sensor the gm maft is more of a self adjusting devices that reads the new sensor measurements and adjusts according to the sensor. (increasing reliability in climate changes w/o adjustment)

It doesn't adjust to condition, it simply moniters them better with a more accurate air flow reading. The tuning changes made with the MAF-t controlls are less likely to need changes with different atmospheric changes.

The Super AFC seems to be more for the experienced tuner that wants more power over manipulating their motor to run how they want it.

that's giving SAFC users more credit that they deserve The SAFC is basically the entry air/fuel tuning device. It's super generic and can be used on almost any car but deffinetly does thet trick for injector compensation and precision tuning on the dyno or the streets. Like you said though, drastic atmospheric changes will require a new tune.

Having both and zeroing out the Translator to use the AFC is pretty much just an airflow mod that allows more air through the system than the stock equipment and is just slightly easier to adjust and make corrections from in the car w/ the nice display and buttons.

You also gain all of the benifits of having the GM sensor next to the throttle body so there are more benifits than just a free flowing intake.

 

[Project ES]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I didnt mean to glorify the SAFC as a much further advanced tuning device, I just think that one would have to know a lil more about fuel curves and things like that to use and understand the SAFC to its potential as opposed to the simpler one click knob tweeking nature of the MAFT.

 

[GSXlaunch]

I know this is old but I think a few of my concerns were at least touched on. I have a 1990 GSX and I just ordered and received my new translator ver. 2.01 and 3" GM maf. I just purchased a used SCM61 turbo and 750's so I am looking at making some decent power and did not want the mass I had to be a bottleneck. My car is set up mainly for track and is rarely driven on the street. I had been trying to figure out what settings to set the maft to in order to run the safc. I should mention my safc is the old 5-knob version and to me at least, is much easier to tune with than both the maft and newer style safc. Anyhow, I'd just like some feedback on the following. I plan on setting up the maft for 750 injectors and zeroing out everything else in order to tune with my safc that sits in my lap basically. I was thinking about perhaps setting up the maft to read 650cc injectors, which I believe will make the car run a little richer. I'll make up for it with by leaning out the afc. The GM maf will be located about 8-10" in front of the throttle body and followed by the stock bov...which I will be venting. Does anyone have any other suggestions or can any correct me if I am wrong. ECU is stock...but I beleive I have pretty much all the supporting mods for this set up (updating my mod profil shortly). ANy and all feedback is welcome. Thanks fellas.

 

[boost05]

I have a translator, 2.1 and im using only that to tune with 780cc injectors and it sucks so im getting my safc2 soon and puting everything to zero on my translator and tuning with the afc... it miss fires a lot and it runs extremely rich without the afc.