Gm maf

[jag4600]

what all do i need to install the gm maf i have searched but cant really get a straight answere and do i absoltly need a vafc?? oh and this is on a 1g

 

[YanDsm]

maf translator and it could work

Oh and I suggest to have a logger to dial the maft properly

 

[jag4600]

where do i get a logger i plan to go with dsm link but not for a lil while

 

[Colt4G63 also]

If you get link you won't need a MAFT or a logger, so why wait?

 

[jag4600]

ok so i think im gonna but an apexi afc neo. will this work in place of a maf translator? also will i need bigger injectors with the maf install if i have afc?

so your saying just get link now and do the gm maf? then i wont have to deal with the afc and translator.

 

[steve3s]

I have dsmlink and the gm maf with translator. I just zero out the translator and tune with link. The translator is just so I can vent bov.

 

[jag4600]

ok thanks guys anyone kno where i can get dsm link used for a fair price? i have paypal and ready to buy it new but i would prefer it used to save a lil cash for injectors and the gm maf pm me thanks

 

[crash89]

ok thanks guys anyone kno where i can get dsm link used for a fair price? i have paypal and ready to buy it new but i would prefer it used to save a lil cash for injectors and the gm maf pm me thanks

Check the classifieds, someone might be selling their v2 setup.. Or you could look into v3 lite, I believe its only 350$.. Somewhere around there.

 

[jag4600]

i dont want lite i want the full options and the v2 is that upgradable? i want the ltest version

 

[crash89]

If v3 lite isnt an option Id say its going to be difficult finding a decently priced set up. Like I said before, just look through the classifieds. Who knows you might find what youre looking for there.

 

[jag4600]

so what exactly do i need to run dsmlink?

 

[GSXTasy005]

Assuming you already have a socketed ECU and the link chip. You'll need a laptop... but that's the easy part. you'll also need a running DSM, kinda hard to find these days...

 

[bskills]

I recently switched over to ECMlink V3 also switching to a GM MAF. You will need a socked ECU (Eprom) also when you get your ECMlink, also get the GM cable. ECMlink will control the GM MAF. I ordered mine through MAP Performance. Got a good deal.

 

[GSXTasy005]

You will need a socked ECU (Eprom)

that's not quite true. ECMLink can now do 2G non-EPROM conversions, kinda spendy. but if you visit THEIR site, instead of 3rd party vendors... you'll see all kinds of deals.

Also, he was asking what he NEEDS to run ECMLink V3. you do NOT need a GM MAF to run V3.

Skip the GM MAF for now anyway. Get V3 then spend around $100 on an OmniPower 3, 4 or 7 bar MAP and run speed density. you'll be happier with the end result.

 

[jag4600]

i have an eprom and a running dsm laptop im using now but i think i may b going a different route..i got to thinkin. hmm maybe i dont need dsm link. im not building this car to run 10s. i just want a quick lil daily driver..my gf drives it to due to the fact her turdcell thru a rod haha...so i know my options for dsm link and what i will need...now the question is what will i need if i run an afc..ill b buying the apexi afc neo color..will i still need a maf translator and i wont need the eprom ecu correct? if i wont need it its for sale best offer gets it just pm me..im just a small time tuner so i really dont see the reason to go dsm link im only gonna run 18lbs would this b ok with just the gm maf and a afc.thanks guys for the help

 

[GSXTasy005]

dude... just do link. if you change your mind later, it'll be easier to mod/add parts. if you get the AFC NEO you still need the translator. because the ECU only understands karman-style air readings, you'd still need the translator to translate the GM MAF readings to karman. you'd spend just as much, and end up with a MUCH more limited setup in the end... you already have the ECU, so it's $500 for the chip. if you do the AFC NEO you'd be buying that + GM MAF + MAF Translator = about the same (or more) amount of $ spent.


Also, you would not need the EPROM if you went with the NEO

 

[jag4600]

u make a very good point..im just scared about tuning can anyone point me in the direction to a diy socketing i have done hondas but i wanna read about the dsm socketing before i do it

 

[crash89]

An afc is ok, but you wont have any logging capabilities. So, with that said you wont know really anything thats going on inside your engine such as knock, timing ect ect.. Even though your not chasing 10s, Id still recommend Link.. Even with smaller injectors you will have such a better tune and a healthier engine with DSMlink.

As for the afc install, take a look here >> http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-electrical-wiring/354838-how-install-apexi-safc-2g-turbo.html Youll need some injectors as well as some other supporting mods. Take a look in the upgrade path here >> Tech Guide: 2G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners

Also on an other note, please use proper capitalization, spelling and grammar as its in the rules you should have read when becoming a member..

 

[GSXTasy005]

if you're nervous about socketing it yourself, you might send it in to ECMTuning. they do AMAZING socket jobs, and can look the ECU over and tell you if there are any problems with it (before it becomes a problem). If you send it to them be sure to talk to Thomas Dorris first. He's very knowledgeable and can test the whole thing before it leaves their offices, you'll never even have to open the ECU case (unless you want to). Of course there are tons of resources for DIY sockets in this forum.

Socketing an EPROM ECU


Also, I almost forgot about this! Would be cheaper (that's always nice) but WAY more difficult to tune that ECMLink...

Evo 8 ECU in a 2g - Your Visual Guide

 

[brian92tsiawd]

Sorry for dumb qustion but didn't he say this was on a 1g??

 

[jag4600]

sorry about the grammar I'm not very smart when it comes to spelling and grammar. well i just wanna make sure i don't mis anything when socketing the ecu like removing or adding a cap and my ecu has had a looking over and has had some caps replaced looks like ill b ordering a new dsmlink

yes 1g awd talon turbo

 

[crash89]

Sorry for dumb qustion but didn't he say this was on a 1g??

My mistake, yes he has a 1g. In that case here are the links for you!

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/gvr4_afc_instructions.html

Tech Guide: 1G 4G63t Upgrades - DSMtuners

 

[jag4600]

ok i decided to go with dsmlink full version..i found a used dsmlink v2 i am wondering is there an upgrade to make it v3? or shoulkd i just buy v3 right out of the gate?

 

[92AWDHX40]

look at the site its informative.

 

[jag4600]

i did search the site but couldnt really understand ther explanation....ill read it again to see if it makes more sense...thanks guys for the help