getting an oil cooler, what all do i need?

[yup talon]

my oil cooler is busted and i need a new one ASAP so im thinking of getting the GReddy oil cooler setup overnighted. would this be all i need to replace it? I've read that the stock 2g oil cooler is internal, as opposed to this setup being external. do i need any other parts? SHOULD i get any other parts?

also, how hard would this be to install? I've never even looked at my oil cooler let alone swapped one. is it pretty basic/simple? ive never torn into the motor before but ive done all the other work to my car myself. (aside from the clutch/tranny) i wont have much time myself to mess around with it before i am taking a road trip early next week so i may end up having a shop do it if its even somewhat complicated.

here is a link to the setup im looking at getting. ill probably order it tomorrow morning. http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17618&cat=660&page=1

HELP!

 

[yup talon]

this may be a totally newb question too, but if my current stock one is busted, that wont effect the instalation of the new greddy oil cooler setup, will it? (meaning, i dont need to use the old cooler for anything)

after doing a little more reading and searching on here i find a lot of people suggesting to make there own oil cooler kit. which is not for me. if you have any other suggestions of a complete oil cooler kit, let me know though - thanks.

 

[jdmjason]

why wouldn't you want to make one? $450 seem like a lot of money to me. Just go buy a $50 setrab oil cooler....or $75-100 for one with lines and the fittings, then grab your oil cooler line adaptors and and external oil cooler housing.

 

[BREW]

I agree with buying the parts individually, and installing it yourself. If you think about it, thats all a complete kit is, and your still going to have to install it yourself. Read up and find the hardware you'll need (pending what size lines you want to run, and oil cooler), believe me youll save money that way. But if you don't trust yourself doing it, or have $500 to spend on an oil cooler setup then maybe it's worth it to buy the prefab setup.

JDMJASON, Setrab was my choice as well, but as far as $50, or even $100 for that matter , that's not happening. Maybe you know something I don't

Brew

 

[hellotbone]

You have a car that doesn't have provisions for an external oil cooler. This would require the kit you linked to to get it done. Its alot of money and for little gain. You would be best getting a new water oil cooler like you have stock.

 

[DR.Spock]

these guys make a nice kit for 180.00

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/engineparts.shtml

 

[SlowSpyder]

$35 for a permacool oil filter sandwich adapter
$20 for miscellaneous brass fittings
$50 for a B&M oil cooler
$15 for extra cooler lines

Dont buy a greedy oil cooler set up when 120 bucks will get you what you need.

 

[BREW]

You have a car that doesn't have provisions for an external oil cooler. This would require the kit you linked to to get it done. Its alot of money and for little gain. You would be best getting a new water oil cooler like you have stock.

Agreed. Spend the extra money on something else.

 

[sweet97]

these guys make a nice kit for 180.00

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/engineparts.shtml

I've got that but you need to add a '90 style filter housing if you do not have one for another $65. I paid $253. with shipping. Mark
PS: Turbo is oil cooled only so it was a good investment for me and I am hoping it lowers the engine temps also.

 

[snox135]

You should also install a thermostat to control the oil temp. The 90 oil filter housing has a t-stat built into to it. So if you use that you won't need to buy one.

 

[jdmjason]

JDMJASON, Setrab was my choice as well, but as far as $50, or even $100 for that matter , that's not happening. Maybe you know something I don't

Brew

ebay


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NASC...ryZ46095QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Keshav]

got my -8 AN fittings and steel-braided hose from Jeggs

got a Setrab oil cooler (119) from Baker Precision - comes with -8 AN adapters

one 90' oil filter housing from Mach V along with the o-ring washers to prevent leaks

still waiting for the metric to AN adapters to arrive as they were back-ordered

all that cost around $350 with taxes and shipping, but will make for a bad-arse cooler setup better than the 90's stock unit.

I found all that through a little searching and reading. Don't think I"m missing anything, but we'll see in about a week when the metric adapters arrive.

 

[jdmjason]

still waiting for the metric to AN adapters to arrive as they were back-ordered

If anyone else is looking for these...i found some at a custom brake line and hose shop. I'm sure shops like these are fairly common.

 

[yup talon]

You have a car that doesn't have provisions for an external oil cooler. This would require the kit you linked to to get it done. Its alot of money and for little gain. You would be best getting a new water oil cooler like you have stock.

So by this do you mean that the kit i listed includes everything i need to get this installed?

I ended up ordering the GReddy kit for several reasons. For one, i just dont have the time to figure out/find/order/wait for parts that i'd need. I would have just gone with a stock cooler, but one from the dealer was like $400 almost. So i figured for another $64 or so, it would be worth the extended oil/engine life. Money wasnt much of a factor anyhow, i just needed something complete fast. Finding DSM parts from a junkyard around here is torture also .


Does anybody know which oil filter I'm going to need to use with this kit? I've heard i may need to start using an old toyota corolla sized oil filter now using the GReddy kit.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Heres my oil cooler set up
Its a permacool oil sandwich adapter
with an Evo oil filter and an b&m oil cooler
Sorry about the cooler pic, can really see it because of the grill but if you look youll see my Tranny cooler and oil cooler side by side

 

[WatchItExplode]

SlowSpyder, are those the stock lines? Do they attach to the oil cooler like stock or did you need to buy different fittings?

EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot. So this sandwich adapter, how does it work?

 

[SlowSpyder]

SlowSpyder, are those the stock lines? Do they attach to the oil cooler like stock or did you need to buy different fittings?

EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot. So this sandwich adapter, how does it work?

It bolts on the same way as the stock oil cooler. It just goes in between the filter and the housing. The adapter bolts on to the oil filter housing with a supplied special bolt and then the oil filter threads onto that bolt. Its nice because compared to the stock turbo oil cooler the sandwich adapter is only 1 inch thick and has a pressure bypass so if the oil cooler clogs it will bypass the cooler.

 

[WatchItExplode]

Wow that's a cool little device. If it's really that simple to switch to an air-oil cooler, why do people bother buying a 91 style oil filter housing?

 

[arash15]

i would look for a stock oil cooler. since your a 7 bolt,(thats what im assuming) the oil is water cooled and not air cooled. 6 bolts on the other hand need an external oil cooler.

 

[96whgsx]

Here is a good link for oil cooler install:

http://www.jakelatham.com/1gDSM/projects/oil_cooler/index.shtml

Even though it is for a 1g, everything is relatively similar to the 2g in terms of parts needed. Also, does the 7 bolt oil filter housing have a thermostat? If not, you will run oil into the oil cooler at all times, even when it is cold.

 

[gamingguru]

i would look for a stock oil cooler. since your a 7 bolt,(thats what im assuming) the oil is water cooled and not air cooled. 6 bolts on the other hand need an external oil cooler.

And why exactly is that? It seems to me that your 6-bolt engine will work just fine with either a external oil cooler or the stock water to oil kind.

 

[yup talon]

got the 10 row GReddy cooler on now and works like a charm. ill post some pictures later. DAMNNNN these SS oil lines are fawking hugee!

stuck with the stock oil filter, but it looks like a pretty tight fit. anyone know of a filter with the same pitch/diameter, just shorter in length?

 

[SlowSpyder]

got the 10 row GReddy cooler on now and works like a charm. ill post some pictures later. DAMNNNN these SS oil lines are fawking hugee!

stuck with the stock oil filter, but it looks like a pretty tight fit. anyone know of a filter with the same pitch/diameter, just shorter in length?

The Evo oil filter is smaller in height which should give you just enough clearance from your downpipe

 

[yup talon]

thanks!

here are some quick pics after being installed. yes i know i need to clean up that area. its still all muddy looking from flushing my coolant. (which was mixing with oil in the old stock oil cooler )

 

[gamingguru]

Hey, that looks good. I will try and post pics of my setup after I get my car all put back together. I still have to figure out how I am going to make it work with all straight fittings though. I think that it will be tight in there to say the least.