2G front wheel bearing hub removal trick?

[95burgundyesi]

I have a northern car and these front 2 hubs do not want to seperate from the axels. Tomorrow I am going to use a cutting torch to make them glow red. I tried soaking them in liquid wrench for a few hours and pounding, but no dice.

Was wondering if anyone ever had a trick to getting these suckers to seperate from the axel.

 

[sschambers]

Good luck with that, the torch won't work. Took me 2 days of cutting to cut off the hub from the spindle. I was even using oxygen/acetylene torches. I got it cherry red, then beat the hell out of the axles...Nothing....I even bent my 12 ton shop press trying to press them out. They're 'rust-welded' in there. You'll need new hub/bearings and axles, unless you somehow manage to get those things out of there without messing up the axles.

 

[tjbiker031]

I wouldn't even waste my time cutting those two apart, just call TheDSMGraveYard.com a call and i'm sure they can get you some for cheap.

 

[Jeff99GS]

Ahh yes the RUSTY axle. Living in Cleveland I know A LOT about those.

I use one of these....works everytime! No need for new axles.

YA498A, Puller Hub, Front Wheel Drive

 

[knochgoon24]

I was in the same boat. I've replaced 3 wheel bearings and 2 of them needed new axles. I tried heat, PB blaster, a 15 ton press, hub puller, sledge hammer, until finally just buying a new axle because by that point, it was unusable. But, my car has 218k miles and those hubs hadn't been removed since the car was built. Rust belt winters

 

[Jeff99GS]

I was in the same boat. I've replaced 3 wheel bearings and 2 of them needed new axles. I tried heat, PB blaster, a 15 ton press, hub puller, sledge hammer, until finally just buying a new axle because by that point, it was unusable. But, my car has 218k miles and those hubs hadn't been removed since the car was built. Rust belt winters

What you have to do is apply a SHIT load of tension on the hub puller....THEN take a metal hammer and tap the puller head where you tighten it. That should pop it right off!

 

[EricGRIT09]

What you have to do is apply a SHIT load of tension on the hub puller....THEN take a metal hammer and tap the puller head where you tighten it. That should pop it right off!

I agree. I just replaced a bearing, the nut was actually rusted so bad that it didn't look like anything, just a pile of rust. Cut the nut off, and just kept on applying tons of tension and then whacking it. It moved so little that it didn't look like it was doing anything except mushrooming the head of the puller. After about 30-45 minutes of constant hitting, I noticed it was coming. Just keep at it, my terrible condition bearing came off, I think just about anyone's can.

 

[95burgundyesi]

Yeah rochester gets some nasty winter. This was a michicagn car until 2 years ago, I will try and give that puller a shot, I am a broke biotch and would like to avoid replacing 2 front axels that are perfectly fine.

Thanks guys.

 

[Silver 95 GST]

I had the same problem. I gauarantee they will come out if you use this thread:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/new...ing-stuck-siezed-spline.html?highlight=siezed

Good luck

 

[dsmloverguy90]

I live in CT and sometimes we use a 20 lbs slide hammer when necessary.

 

[95'RS-T]

hit it with some PB Blaster and tap on it with a hammer to get the PB in the cracks of the rust even spin it if you can then you should be able to use a puller to get it out

 

[joyfil2001]

If it is rust welded, whish it probably is, the only thing that will work is cutting. However, it takes alot of time and effort (ask me how I know). Do yourself a favor and just call dsmgraveyard as stated above. I ended up ordering a new hub/spindle off of them pretty cheap.

 

[Jeff99GS]

Ehh, If I can get the 20 year old axles out of my Jeep hubs, then you got to be able to get these out of there. Come ON MAN...YOU CAN DO IT

I live 20 min south of Lake erie.... we get POUNDED with 4 feet of snow every year and the salt trucks are out 24-7.
Everything I work on is "RUST WELDED"

 

[95burgundyesi]

I had the same problem. I gauarantee they will come out if you use this thread:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/new...ing-stuck-siezed-spline.html?highlight=siezed

Good luck

Your in Rockford to?! Cool. Well round 2 will be tonight and I am surely attempting to gett hose things out. I already ahve the new hubs and tie rod ends.

 

[Jeff99GS]

See the reason you guys get the mushroomed Axle end is cause you are NOT putting the Nut back on the end of the axle.

Loosen the nut....BUT leave it ON the axle till you get it broke loose. This usually stops the puller from Mushroming the axle end.

 

[knochgoon24]

What you have to do is apply a SHIT load of tension on the hub puller....THEN take a metal hammer and tap the puller head where you tighten it. That should pop it right off!

See the reason you guys get the mushroomed Axle end is cause you are NOT putting the Nut back on the end of the axle.

Loosen the nut....BUT leave it ON the axle till you get it broke loose. This usually stops the puller from Mushroming the axle end.

Would you believe me if I said I had the nut on it and still started to mushroomed the axle behind the nut (toward the hub) the one time?! I used a 5' breaker bar (old cast iron pipe) and that mixed with pounding on it with a sledge (puller still on) WITH PB Blaster, then heat, then more PB Blaster still didn't work.

I wish I was kidding. I tried everything to save the axle the second time. The first time my friend just completely f@#$ed the end up. He didn't put the nut back on and hit it with a sledge. Bent part of the axle that sticks out the front.

But with about 200k miles on those axles, I didn't fret replacing them.

The third axle and hub separated easily. It looked like it had work done on that side before though.

 

[Jeff99GS]

Would you believe me if I said I had the nut on it and still started to mushroomed the axle behind the nut (toward the hub) the one time?! I used a 5' breaker bar (old cast iron pipe) and that mixed with pounding on it with a sledge (puller still on) WITH PB Blaster, then heat, then more PB Blaster still didn't work.

I wish I was kidding. I tried everything to save the axle the second time. The first time my friend just completely f@#$ed the end up. He didn't put the nut back on and hit it with a sledge. Bent part of the axle that sticks out the front.

But with about 200k miles on those axles, I didn't fret replacing them.

The third axle and hub separated easily. It looked like it had work done on that side before though.

WOW that is crazy!! I have never heard of an axle siezed that bad into a hub haha. Are you guys wearing the wheel bearing out to the point that it is rubbing bare metal and causing the axle to heat weld it to the hub? Or twisting the splines?

I believe that you have 200,000 miles but There is NO way that is the OEM wheel bearing still. I bought my Eclipse Brand new and my wheel bearings both went bad at like 60,000 -70,000 miles.

You guys aren't heating the AXLE are you?? You need to heat AROUND the axle.

I guess I have always gotten lucky then cause I never had one that hard to get out haha.