front engine cover (oil pump)

[bigjdog84]

Save face for your company, you're going off on a tangent and practice little tact by insulting people just because they don't want to use shitty gaskets.

No, I don't build 100 shortblocks a year. But I have built a few, its not too hard. Your e-muscles are big if you can build 100 shortblocks a year. Now lets see the success rate :laugh:

I'm sorry I didn't know people try to blow gaskets for fun. I should have known that from the start, but you were too busy praising topline for me to figure that you were doing it for fun. Most people don't enjoy blowing HG's on expensive motors, but whatever floats your boat.

Not once have I gone e-thug on you or called you out over something stupid like this. Though I am intimidated by over-weight, out of shape, middle aged men.

 

[Slowboy]

Save face for your company, you're going off on a tangent and practice little tact by insulting people just because they don't want to use shitty gaskets.

No, I don't build 100 shortblocks a year. But I have built a few, its not too hard. Your e-muscles are big if you can build 100 shortblocks a year. Now lets see the success rate :laugh:

I'm sorry I didn't know people try to blow gaskets for fun. I should have known that from the start, but you were too busy praising topline for me to figure that you were doing it for fun. Most people don't enjoy blowing HG's on expensive motors, but whatever floats your boat.

Not once have I gone e-thug on you or called you out over something stupid like this. Though I am intimidated by over-weight, out of shape, middle aged men.

Save face for my company?

Going off on a tangent?

I thought the post was about front covers, gears, and gaskets? How far off topic am I by stating:

#1) Topline front covers and gaskets work fantastic
#2) We use them on all the motors we build
#3) Topline is the largest Aluminum foundry North/ South America
#4) Preperation is 90% of having gaskets that do not leak
#5) Staiting we do not have issues with Topline pumps assuming correct installation procedures are used.
#6) Stating 99% of problems are user error/ installation problems
#7) Defending a product I know is good

Or, maybe your statements are better

#1) Topline gaskets are known for failure.

Thats really scientific! Awesome work!

#2) Something about me being middle age, and overweight...

Thats really on topic! Awesome work!

Maybe you are upset at our success with them? Not sure, but I will defend a product until I am blue in the face, so keep it coming.

PS... yes, I was horribly overweight, so in November right after SEMA I hired a trainer, went from 247 lbs ( I am 6'1" ) to 219 since then. I can bench press 300 LBS, and leg press almost 1000. Not bad for a 31 yr old out of shape middle age man. Am I the strongest guy on the list.... HELL NO... but I am proud of myself WOOT WOOT.

So, come on up to the shop, who are you anyway? You talk like you know me.

MGH

 

[kicker91laser]

Not to chime in so late, but last year I to had used the topline front case, bought from DSMotorsport, and I have only put 250 miles on it, and I have a leak somewhere, I am not blaming anybody for it, but the gaskets are alot thinner that the OEM gaskets. It may have been my error, maybe not, but the gaskets don't seem as good to me. Just my .02.

 

[bigjdog84]

You were going off on a tangent by pointing fingers, saying how many motors you build, calling me an internet tough guy (don't even know where the hell you got that from--read the posts in order), and trying to call me out like your going to do something about it. Thats off topic, and so are my posts to you, but I like this arguement

I was busting your balls about being intimidated considering you wanted to talk "face to face". Everything I've said to you has been in retaliation to your off topic comments.

Bottom line is that the gaskets are horrible, and if you think otherwise then you are the minority. Go ahead and use them on your motors if they work for you but for the people that are actually looking for a good gasket should take my and everyone elses suggestion and go OEM.

I'd love to go to your shop, that way we could compare both gaskets and wear on high milage mitsu pumps vs. low milage topline's. I'm 5 hrs. away though : /

 

[Slowboy]

You were going off on a tangent by pointing fingers, saying how many motors you build, calling me an internet tough guy (don't even know where the hell you got that from--read the posts in order), and trying to call me out like your going to do something about it. Thats off topic, and so are my posts to you, but I like this arguement

I was busting your balls about being intimidated considering you wanted to talk "face to face". Everything I've said to you has been in retaliation to your off topic comments.

Bottom line is that the gaskets are horrible, and if you think otherwise then you are the minority. Go ahead and use them on your motors if they work for you but for the people that are actually looking for a good gasket should take my and everyone elses suggestion and go OEM.

I'd love to go to your shop, that way we could compare both gaskets and wear on high milage mitsu pumps vs. low milage topline's. I'm 5 hrs. away though : /

Pointing fingers, or asking questions?

Lets go back to my post.

"Mine never leaked. Did you run a chaser tap in the holes before you put the bolts back in? Did you re-use the stock bolts, or spring for new ones? Did you use a little red thread lock, or no? Did you really get all of the old gasket off before you put the new one on?"

Seems to me I asked four really good questions, did I really point a finger at you? NO.

Bottom line is, the gaskets are only as good as the people installing them. PERIOD. The topline gasket is FINE, even compared to OEM.

An internet tough guy you are, asking me to "save face", and some of our work is "you do not want to comment" is just plain hilarious, and yes I will call you to the floor everytime for a comment like this. You made your bed, time for you to sleep in it. You are attacking what I happen to make a living at, and am quite passionate for... not to mention pay 12 full time salaries while giving back everything I can. So, go ahead and make crap ass comments like "save face" and this product is "junk", your entitled to your opinion.

Whats a matter, cannot tell me who you are? I am so curious. Let me know when your car can make the 5 hour drive,

MGH

 

[bigjdog84]

Now quote the last sentance, and ask yourself why it looked like you were pointing fingers. Those 4 questions were plenty good, all things that should be done while putting a pump on, thats why I did them

I said save face because you just flat out wrong saying that the gasket is fine. There are people on here that plenty of experience and still have these gaskets fail on them when being installed properly. Yeah, I don't want to comment on your work. Whats so wrong with that? I've seen good work and bad work come out of your shop and its as simple as that I would rather not start another flame war with you.

If you really want to know who I am so badly you can go ahead and look in my profile, everything should be listed there. Sadly my DSM can't make the ride over there, its an on going project. Its made alot of progress since you've seen it in its ricey stage (when i first bought it).

 

[Slowboy]

Now quote the last sentance, and ask yourself why it looked like you were pointing fingers. Those 4 questions were plenty good, all things that should be done while putting a pump on, thats why I did them

I said save face because you just flat out wrong saying that the gasket is fine. There are people on here that plenty of experience and still have these gaskets fail on them when being installed properly. Yeah, I don't want to comment on your work. Whats so wrong with that? I've seen good work and bad work come out of your shop and its as simple as that I would rather not start another flame war with you.

If you really want to know who I am so badly you can go ahead and look in my profile, everything should be listed there. Sadly my DSM can't make the ride over there, its an on going project. Its made alot of progress since you've seen it in its ricey stage (when i first bought it).

No more games, its just annoying.

The gasket works fine for me, always has. How is that wrong?

MGH

 

[bigjdog84]

Thats the point, I never said it was wrong. Its just that the original poster is better off using an OEM gasket as it has had a better track record according to everyone else. I've yet to hear a complaint about them.
I'm happy the gasket works fine for you, keep on using them
I hope that puts some closure on things, if you want to speak about anything else just pm me.

 

[anconover]

I guess we can consider Mike Huml to be the best gasket installer around. Cuz i bet all the people that have had the crap topline gaskets leak installed them dead wrong because there are so many ways to install a gasket.

 

[red91gst]

I guess we can consider Mike Huml to be the best gasket installer around. Cuz i bet all the people that have had the crap topline gaskets leak installed them dead wrong because there are so many ways to install a gasket.

He is actually a certified Engine-Pro gasket installer

Nate

 

[half-cocked]

3 different types of engines all using top-line products. All with at least 15K on them not one leak, and I wont even pretend to be a pro gasket installer or engine builder. Shit I just used the timing belt for leverage to torque down the oil pump sprocket nut.