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Found this in my oil pan

Posted by themnkeygoesmoo, Jul 11, 2014

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  1. miliman13

    miliman13 Proven Member

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    I have NO idea how your car ran with that damaged!! i lost one just one rod bearing just looked like some one dropped a small pinch of glitter and my engine sounded like a loose .50 cal !
     

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  2. Talyn

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    Yikes, those are all toast. How do the journals look?
    I'd go through the whole thing and do a rebuild at that point. Probably going to want to re-bearing and re-ring it at least. Make sure you get a good look at the journals, looking for gouges/grooves. etc, also check for discoloration of the metal on crank and rods, which can suggest heat fatigue, when I spun a rod bearing, the rod actually wasn't tore up, but it had heat fatigue so I replaced it. Also I find it strange that they ALL look bad, kind of suggests you have an oil system problem. When you removed your balance shafts, did you clock the bearings 180 on the rear shaft to block the oil ports?
     

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  3. gofast63

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    What does your crank look like??? any scratches???
     
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  4. mowgli5555

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    In for the pictures of the crankshaft. Josh
     
  5. Slo2gn

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    thats nuts hopefully she will be up and boosting soon!
     
  6. themnkeygoesmoo

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    That's why i didn't think it was my bearings. The car was running great!

    Negative. I will post pictures soon.

    That was my first thought. HAS to be an oil issue. No way they all look like that without them being starved of oil.

    Ive been working on cars, not just my own, for over 10 years and dsms for about 8 or 9. Never have i seen such destruction of a bearing without obvious issues. That's one for the books
     
  7. gofast63

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    Cool! then you can get away with slapping new bearings in. Just check the clearances with plastic gauge. thats good to hear.
     
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  8. mowgli5555

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    Any updates?? Josh
     
  9. craig4g63

    craig4g63 Proven Member

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    ^^^

    This mentality is why people build and rebuild and wonder why they keep destroying parts.

    All oil galleys and parts requiring oil for lubrication need to be thoroughly cleaned and or replaced. The material in the oil pan is likely a fraction of what's hiding in numerous spots throughout the motor.

    Build it correctly the first time. Patch fixes never work long.
     

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  10. keltalon

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    I agree 110%!
     

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  11. themnkeygoesmoo

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    Agree with all said. There's no way I'm just slapping new bearings on and calling it a day. I know better than that. I'm removing the motor in a week or so. I'll post pictures of everything once it's out and apart.
     
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  12. RedGST98

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    looks like my #4 when the rod started to seize.. luckly I was able to have it turned and went straight forged..LOL Good luck with the rebuild man.. Im with ya there in spirit..LOL Im still doing mine..
     
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    Clearly you didn't read my pervious posts before insulting my mentality.:heystupid:
     
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  14. craig4g63

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    I did read your previous posts and they are all incorrect.

    Cleaning "as much" debris as you can and doing a few oil changes to flush as much debris out is simply terrible advice.

    The correct way to solve the problem is what the OP is doing.
     

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  15. gofast63

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    I've implied if you are tight on money and to inspect and clean as much as you possibly can. Not everyone can afford the time nor money to take their engine part to clean every thing on there daily driven vehicle. The advice was given to get them on their feet to return to the problem.
     
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    If you cannot afford to repair the issue correctly the first time, you should wait until you do have the monetary means to do so.

    It is never efficient to perform a task incorrectly, no matter what the constraints are believed to be. I say "believed" to be because often what are thought of as constraints are merely an opportunity for solution.
     

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  17. themnkeygoesmoo

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    If any of this is true, you shouldn't own a DSM. If you are tight on money, can't afford time nor money, DSM's arent for you LOL. I only kid, but in all seriousness engine is coming out soon and being taken completely apart. In the meantime though, Monday I pick up my new aquired toy. A 1997 Eclipse GSX. Yummy!!
     
  18. boost97gst

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    After looking at the pics I would go ahead and put a new crank in the budget. I personally highly recommend a new vs cut crank.

    How you didnt hear it is beyond me. Thats the craziest part. Also, one look at the oil can tell you before you even hear it.

    You get some hands on experience tearing it down though....glass half full approach haha. good luck with your build and i hope nothing else got too trashed. Just make sure to clean the hell out of everything that touched oil. EVEN the turbo. Turbo can spit contaminated oil back in the pan on a brand new fresh engine and ruin it real fast. The machinist should clean everything/hot tank/etc but make sure he gets every single piece that oil touched.


    Edit: Congrats on the new awd!!!!!
     

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