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Finally, a simple and effective boost creep solution: W/ a sketch now

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pickens

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The title of this thread refers to the thread that was closed recently. Do a search and read about it. I've been getting alot of PMs for a sketch so here you guys go. :thumb:

(Edit: It will not let me upload the sketch??) Need some help here.
 
I had to change it to a JPEG. It would not let me upload a bmp. Here ya go. Enjoy less boost creep with this simple piece.
 

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When you move the attachment point in you get more movement of the waste gate door which should help it flow more air. The only problem i see is that by moving the attachment point in you now have lessened its mechanical advantage by about a factor of 2. So the when we want the door closed it will be help with half the force as stock. This could be a problem when you start making lots of power because the exhaust pressure will go up and midgt blow open the door.

Basically it has the same advantages/problems as going with a larger flapper and larger wastegate passage: more flow but risk the the door will blow open under high boost.
 
True. But however, if you want to run higher boost then you can just simply slide the fix back off and recconnect the WG arm to the stock pin location in a matter of minutes. Boost creep is not an issue at anything above 20psi and therefore you will not need the fix when running high boost (i.e. track days). When you leave the track just simply slide the fix back on and enjoy boost control on the street. Definately a HUGE advantage over the Flapper mod.
 
yeah, i didn't think about that, the other solutions are permanant and a pain in the ass to do. this is easily installed and reverseable. pretty good idea
 
So have you verified that this works on a problem car yet? Have you verified the actual gain in flapper travel? It does look almost to good to be true, but if you've found a simple solution for a common problem then I commend you.
 
Do a search and read the "sister" thread to this one as far as performance reviews go. Creep went down from 20psi to only 16psi.

"I got a great idea to end boost creep. Get supporting mods and run 20psi so you dont have to worry about creep."


As far that idea goes, I would agree. However, the reality is that a person can't always afford to buy everything at once in a short period of time. Hence, the need to run 16psi for awhile. Also, if you have fwd such as myself, running 20psi all the time is hell on the tires and it takes some effort to maintain traction in the 1-2 gears. Sometimes I just want to drive the car w/ out having to work the clutch to accelerate swiftly. But more often than not, I just let her run at 20-21psi since I have the supporting mods.
 
How can I try this thing out? I just install my evoIII and my boost flies up past 20 psi...gauge only goes up to 20 psi...I'm affraid my boost gauge is gonna blow up and kill me LOL. I even have a SBR ported 02 housing and the wastegate hooked up to the boost source.
 
truwarrior said:
How can I try this thing out? I just install my evoIII and my boost flies up past 20 psi...gauge only goes up to 20 psi...I'm affraid my boost gauge is gonna blow up and kill me LOL. I even have a SBR ported 02 housing and the wastegate hooked up to the boost source.


welcome to the world of 16gs ... you'll need to do a lot more porting and get a 34mm flapper.
 
DSM mechanix said:
I just tried this, and it didnt do a thing.

feel free to send me the piece you attempted to make. I did not include dimensions in the sketch, so perhaps something is not right. PM me if you want some feedback on what to do and what not to do.
 
so...where's the vfaq? I need to stop my car from creeping :cry:
 
truwarrior said:
How can I try this thing out? I just install my evoIII and my boost flies up past 20 psi...gauge only goes up to 20 psi...I'm affraid my boost gauge is gonna blow up and kill me LOL. I even have a SBR ported 02 housing and the wastegate hooked up to the boost source.

Umm... and you've got a 20psi gauge why exactly??? :confused:
 
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