Eclpse help?! plz

[Daladiezman1627]

Right now i own a 97 Eclipse RS. Now, i am 17, and am going to college soon... I need help on a decision. Should i wait until Senior year to sell my RS and Hopefully get a GST or GSX (that i would keep through college), or should i keep my RS and turbo it.
I see online people are selling their turbo eclipses w/285 horsepower and such, for like 8 grand, and im thinking whether its worth it to attempt to turbo the eclipse but achieve way less horsepower than i would w/a turbo....

The deal is, is senior year, my parents will give me 9K. And if i sell my eclipse, which is http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/774585 then i could have around 14-16 grand to spend on a GSX that i would drive year round. Or should i keep the eclipse and mod it with about 5 of the 9 grand and have the rest for college. I've been thinking about this for ever, and i need some help...

Im looking for around 250-300hp, that i could drive year round....



another ?, i live in michigan, it snows obviously alot here during winter, and i would have the eclipse to drive year round, could i have a body kit on the eclipse and still be safe for it not to be ruined in the winter? also lowering springs? i need help, plz help me out


thankx

 

[truECLIPSE]

well since you are A/T you really don't have a lot of options as for turboing the 420a. Just remember if you do buy a gst or a gsx when you start modding they will become even more unreliable then they already are.

 

[bullettdsm]

Can I be your brother?
MB

 

[TeamORI]

im in college now and kinda went throught the same thing..my advise....sell ur rs..make it complete stock if you still can...but a 95 gst 5spd..and take half of that 9k and mod your car..dont spend all of it...YOU WILL NEED MONEY FOR COLLEGE, i found that out the hard way, but i also couldn't be w/o my car, so thats my advise for ya..i hope it helps

-Jack

 

[GSGoinFast]

im in college now and kinda went throught the same thing..my advise....sell ur rs..make it complete stock if you still can...but a 95 gst 5spd..and take half of that 9k and mod your car..dont spend all of it...YOU WILL NEED MONEY FOR COLLEGE, i found that out the hard way, but i also couldn't be w/o my car, so thats my advise for ya..i hope it helps

-Jack

dont waste your time with a GS-T. in my opinion you will be in the same spot, built turbo 420a or a modded GS-T, either way your still stuck with fwd. and with where you live, awd will be nice. get a GSX or keep the RS... or sell it for a manual one.

 

[BigRand]

If I were you, I wouldn't trade or sell my car for nothing less then a 97+ GSX 5spd, anything else to me is a downgrade in your situation.
I say 97 and up because then you get the good looking stock front and rear bumpers.
And where you live with snow and all you don't want to have to worry about breaking off a nice chunk of your car.

As for lowering, for where you live either go big or go home. Because you want to drive it all year round, I would advise going with a full coilover set up like the Tanbe S0-C, or the Tien Superstree/flex kits. That way you get a nice drop in the summer with a nice ride, but can raise it up in the winter when the snow comes down. I got my Tanbe S0-C's for $950 installed.

If you really still want a kit, then IMO I'd have to go with a full coilover set up to raise the height in the winter.

Whatever you do, just be prepared for stuff to break, so keep some of the college money around for repairs. Check out the classifieds for pricing as well.

I know how it is being in college and having to have an eclipse as a daily driver. You just have the snow to deal with so good luck.

 

[murph22287]

i would suggest, either keeping you rs or getting a gsx. gsx only because of the snow factor. and lowering like he said, coilovers is the only way you will be able to do it, because of the snow. and i would suggest to stay away form a body kit only because you will break it constantly, and will have to fix/replace it. and just my opion the 2gB has a kick ass look to it anyway why change it?

 

[Dave Chan]

well i guess it depends on how long you go to college for....
i started back in september...and i still have one more year left... its a 2 year course..after that i'm going to work full-time and buy myself a 1999 GSX for sure! 98 the latest just because i need a solid reliable car through out college...i'll have to ship it from somewhere in the usa since it's rare to see eclipses in canada (never made)
If your worried about reliablitly I say...hold off until ur done college or working full time?
but if you are not...i say...get one! you want AWD!

I bought my 1998 RS 3 years ago and the car came from florida...got it in toronto from a dealer that imports 2nd hand Mitsubishi's because it was never sold here at that time...and we bought our car for 22 thousand total. I remember driving it around and people didn't know what the hell my car was
and its REALLY hard to find a gsx here...there was actually one for sale in canada..it was a private sale, black 5-spd with 70K miles a 1998....the guy wanted 18 thousand so thats like...probably 16 american or so? anyways the 2G eclipses are expensive here as well as insurance...and the cheapest RS u can find here will run you for about 10-13 thousand $

sorry to bore u with my story hahah

 

[Defiant]

Can I be your brother?

We're all brothers here, even the girls. DSM is the Brand of Brothers.

 

[GSGoinFast]

We're all brothers here, even the girls. DSM is the Brand of Brothers.

haha nice play on words, lets make an HBO special series about it.

 

[bullettdsm]

haha nice play on words, lets make an HBO special series about it.

Oooo. I'm feeling warm all over
MB

 

[dr1665]

well i guess it depends on how long you go to college for....
i started back in september...and i still have one more year left... its a 2 year course..after that i'm going to work full-time and buy myself a 1999 GSX for sure! 98 the latest just because i need a solid reliable car through out college...i'll have to ship it from somewhere in the usa since it's rare to see eclipses in canada (never made)
If your worried about reliablitly I say...hold off until ur done college or working full time?
but if you are not...i say...get one! you want AWD!

I bought my 1998 RS 3 years ago and the car came from florida...got it in toronto from a dealer that imports 2nd hand Mitsubishi's because it was never sold here at that time...and we bought our car for 22 thousand total. I remember driving it around and people didn't know what the hell my car was
and its REALLY hard to find a gsx here...there was actually one for sale in canada..it was a private sale, black 5-spd with 70K miles a 1998....the guy wanted 18 thousand so thats like...probably 16 american or so? anyways the 2G eclipses are expensive here as well as insurance...and the cheapest RS u can find here will run you for about 10-13 thousand $

sorry to bore u with my story hahah

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to see about selling your RS to some sucker, I mean, friendly Canadian neighbor. You'll probably get more for it up there than you will down here. Just a thought. Is there a Canadian eBay site?

And if we're all brothers in the DSM community, why all the "Sell it and buy a turbo" animosity? Oh wait! I forgot! There are bad apples on both sides of the fence. We've got the whiny bench racers. Haha.

Financially speaking, keeping your current car is the smartest bet, but I can see where an AWD DSM would suit you better, especially if you have a slushbox car now. Just do your shopping and make sure you research 4g63-specific problems to be an informed consumer, lest you buy a money pit.

 

[hillbillyboostn]

dude sell that thing. i have a 97 gs i built up. bored, turboed, pistons the hole 9 3/4 yards. for what i got in the dam thing i could have a gsx pimpd . if you want power get a 92-94 eclipse gsx its cheap and you can get BIG power out of it. the 1st gens gsx and gst are better engines then the 2nd gens. larger intake ports, better pistons, larger rods. you cant go wrong.

if you wanting looks and somin newer get a 2nd gen gsx. what ever you decide, dont turbo that thing you will severly regret it as i have.

 

[XMasta19]

holy h-e-double hockeysticks!

If we hear of people coming in the the N/T forums and giving N/T owners a hard time or suggesting they sell their cars and buy turbo cars, those users will be suspended or banned.

 

[BigRand]

dude sell that thing. i have a 97 gs i built up. bored, turboed, pistons the hole 9 3/4 yards. for what i got in the dam thing i could have a gsx pimpd . if you want power get a 92-94 eclipse gsx its cheap and you can get BIG power out of it. the 1st gens gsx and gst are better engines then the 2nd gens. larger intake ports, better pistons, larger rods. you cant go wrong.

if you wanting looks and somin newer get a 2nd gen gsx. what ever you decide, dont turbo that thing you will severly regret it as i have.

Okay WTF this guy is everywhere, All I can say is if our college bound frend here wants a reliable car, and and you told him to get a 1st GEN? , Also hows he's supposed to be big man on campus, withoutt he sexy 2G
Anywyas lean the rules before you start posting again buddy.

 

[SnoopySLR]

I'm in michigan also.

Being its an automatic, I'm not really for modding it. GSX's are sweet, but break more than they run. (kinda like my car )

I'd get a GS-T, or sell your RS and get another with a 5spd. Take the extra money and get a turbo kit. 2GNT's that are turboed sound so much better than 4G63 IMO. I wouldn't trade my car for a 4G63, I don't care how modded.

 

[Ludachris]

dude sell that thing. i have a 97 gs i built up. bored, turboed, pistons the hole 9 3/4 yards. for what i got in the dam thing i could have a gsx pimpd . if you want power get a 92-94 eclipse gsx its cheap and you can get BIG power out of it. the 1st gens gsx and gst are better engines then the 2nd gens. larger intake ports, better pistons, larger rods. you cant go wrong.

if you wanting looks and somin newer get a 2nd gen gsx. what ever you decide, dont turbo that thing you will severly regret it as i have.

Hey folks, for everyone telling this guy not to suggest selling the N/T for a turbo car - the original poster asked this very question. It's not like "hillbillyboostn" came into a thread and out of nowhere told someone to sell their N/T for a turbo car. If someone asks whether they should sell their car, or buy another one instead, it's perfectly okay to give suggestions both ways, especially when you speak from experience.

 

[hillbillyboostn]

Okay WTF this guy is everywhere, All I can say is if our college bound frend here wants a reliable car, and and you told him to get a 1st GEN? , Also hows he's supposed to be big man on campus, withoutt he sexy 2G
Anywyas lean the rules before you start posting again buddy.

evindently you didnt fully understand the ??. he's asking for more bang for his buck. the 1st gens MAY not be the sexiest thing in the world but they got more power potentail stock then the 2nd gen. larger everything. not to mention stronger. 2gn are famous for the crank walk. oh he would be big man on campus buy handing the other guy their ass. if the guy cant get laid in college. the 2gen sure wont help anyways. if you see a first gen still around and going that tells me that the things are like a timexx.

 

[xXeclipstasyXx]

well as for buying a GSX, thats harder than it sounds at least where i used to live in california, they're pretty rare... basically its up to you... do you want to buy a GST and upgrade the turbo or by GS and add a turbo, now this is just a personal thing but i dont think there is anything cooler than having a turbo 420a... anyone can by a GST slap some stickers on it and call it fast but turboing a 420a allows you to jump to the stage 2 off the bat and build the motor.... with a GST your probably going to want to upgrade the turbo and build the motor anyways. call me biased, thats cool, i dont expect everyone to feel this way... i just know that when i see a guy with a turbo 420a i automatically say to myself wow that guys knows his stuff.

 

[SnoopySLR]

well as for buying a GSX, thats harder than it sounds at least where i used to live in california, they're pretty rare... basically its up to you... do you want to buy a GST and upgrade the turbo or by GS and add a turbo, now this is just a personal thing but i dont think there is anything cooler than having a turbo 420a... anyone can by a GST slap some stickers on it and call it fast but turboing a 420a allows you to jump to the stage 2 off the bat and build the motor.... with a GST your probably going to want to upgrade the turbo and build the motor anyways. call me biased, thats cool, i dont expect everyone to feel this way... i just know that when i see a guy with a turbo 420a i automatically say to myself wow that guys knows his stuff.

I like this guy

 

[Redmachine]

well i guess it depends on how long you go to college for....
i started back in september...and i still have one more year left... its a 2 year course..after that i'm going to work full-time and buy myself a 1999 GSX for sure! 98 the latest just because i need a solid reliable car through out college...i'll have to ship it from somewhere in the usa since it's rare to see eclipses in canada (never made)
If your worried about reliablitly I say...hold off until ur done college or working full time?
but if you are not...i say...get one! you want AWD!

I bought my 1998 RS 3 years ago and the car came from florida...got it in toronto from a dealer that imports 2nd hand Mitsubishi's because it was never sold here at that time...and we bought our car for 22 thousand total. I remember driving it around and people didn't know what the hell my car was
and its REALLY hard to find a gsx here...there was actually one for sale in canada..it was a private sale, black 5-spd with 70K miles a 1998....the guy wanted 18 thousand so thats like...probably 16 american or so? anyways the 2G eclipses are expensive here as well as insurance...and the cheapest RS u can find here will run you for about 10-13 thousand $

sorry to bore u with my story hahah

Damn I want to sell my N/t for 22 thousand Damn WTF , You guys have a consignment lot or something???

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

dude sell that thing. i have a 97 gs i built up. bored, turboed, pistons the hole 9 3/4 yards. for what i got in the dam thing i could have a gsx pimpd . if you want power get a 92-94 eclipse gsx its cheap and you can get BIG power out of it. the 1st gens gsx and gst are better engines then the 2nd gens. larger intake ports, better pistons, larger rods. you cant go wrong.

if you wanting looks and somin newer get a 2nd gen gsx. what ever you decide, dont turbo that thing you will severly regret it as i have.

If the 1g's have better pistons then why do people put 2g pistons on 1g rods..

 

[BCESI]

well i guess it depends on how long you go to college for....
i started back in september...and i still have one more year left... its a 2 year course..after that i'm going to work full-time and buy myself a 1999 GSX for sure! 98 the latest just because i need a solid reliable car through out college...i'll have to ship it from somewhere in the usa since it's rare to see eclipses in canada (never made)
If your worried about reliablitly I say...hold off until ur done college or working full time?
but if you are not...i say...get one! you want AWD!

I bought my 1998 RS 3 years ago and the car came from florida...got it in toronto from a dealer that imports 2nd hand Mitsubishi's because it was never sold here at that time...and we bought our car for 22 thousand total. I remember driving it around and people didn't know what the hell my car was
and its REALLY hard to find a gsx here...there was actually one for sale in canada..it was a private sale, black 5-spd with 70K miles a 1998....the guy wanted 18 thousand so thats like...probably 16 american or so? anyways the 2G eclipses are expensive here as well as insurance...and the cheapest RS u can find here will run you for about 10-13 thousand $

sorry to bore u with my story hahah

Damn dude, you got hosed!!! when my ESI originally came up from the states it was sold to my buddy for $14,000 can. I bought it for not nearly that much and it's still in pristene shape. Out here on the west coast GSX/GST eclipses are quite easy to find and they don't cost nearly that much! I will agree that insurance is a joke though.

 

[pr0]

Well since you're in Canada (like me) turbocharging your 420a might not be such a shitty choice since getting a GSX is very hard to get. I tried selling my car for a little bit but I got attached... and all the offers I got were like 6000 bucks (Canadian). WTF. I paid like 8 to get my car down here, inspected, all legal, etc. Then the ECU and a bunch of junk broke costing me about another 2000.

Anyway, I have an AT with turbo running 5 psi and the results are better than I expected.