Does anyone race in competitive racing with there cars?

[rhamlinii]

With NRG-TECH, and now many others FWD cars running 8.30's @181+ or some sort of a 8 second pass. With a 72mm turbo and 26 inch slicks, w/ no wheelie bars, full glass, and in full outlaw street trim. It seem as if the DSM and Evo community has given up in competitive racing. You can look at the world cup finals, NSCRA, or any circut. This guy miller also just for fun ran his car with a 67mm turbo, 24.5 inch slicks and a air to air I/C. With his true street setup he runs 8.80's @ 177+. Why is he setting the bar and is so much faster then anything esle no matter what he's against? He runs a 72mm turbo, it's a new persicion billet turbo. I "believe" it's one of the 76mm turbo trimed down. The turbo run's 3000.00 by itself but whoever runs this turbo seem to amke the power. Is there anything that would be competitive aginst this purpose built class car?

 

[slowgsr]

With NRG-TECH, and now many others FWD cars running 8.30's @181+ or some sort of a 8 second pass. With a 72mm turbo and 26 inch slicks, w/ no wheelie bars, full glass, and in full outlaw street trim. It seem as if the DSM and Evo community has given up in competitive racing. You can look at the world cup finals, NSCRA, or any circut. This guy miller also just for fun ran his car with a 67mm turbo, 24.5 inch slicks and a air to air I/C. With his true street setup he runs 8.80's @ 177+. Why is he setting the bar and is so much faster then anything esle no matter what he's against? He runs a 72mm turbo, it's a new persicion billet turbo. I "believe" it's one of the 76mm turbo trimed down. The turbo run's 3000.00 by itself but whoever runs this turbo seem to amke the power. Is there anything that would be competitive aginst this purpose built class car?

Your very confused.

fastest 4cyl fwd on gas, fastest 4cyl manually shifted unibody, fastest 4 cylinder in the 1/4 or 1mile, you guessed it, all belong to the 4g63.

 

[DSMTyson]

Your very confused.

fastest 4cyl fwd on gas, fastest 4cyl manually shifted unibody, fastest 4 cylinder in the 1/4 or 1mile, you guessed it, all belong to the 4g63.

I love these tiny little engines.

 

[rhamlinii]

Your very confused.

fastest 4cyl fwd on gas, fastest 4cyl manually shifted unibody, fastest 4 cylinder in the 1/4 or 1mile, you guessed it, all belong to the 4g63.

There is no confusion. In my post it explain's, I was talking about nscra true street class and or street outlaw class rules. Depending on the class, you have to run a 67mm or 72mm compressor wheel. If you see one of these event you'll understand that evo's abd dsm's tend not to enter these events. I'm on my blackberry now, but I will post the rules for the event when I get home.

 

[dwdsm]

Your very confused.

fastest 4cyl fwd on gas, fastest 4cyl manually shifted unibody, fastest 4 cylinder in the 1/4 or 1mile, you guessed it, all belong to the 4g63.

I agree... confusing..
I was there for the shep run, awesome, just awesome.

 

[floader]

The rules in these classes dictate what cars work well and what car don't. The 4G may hold lots of records, but they must not be competitive when they are in class legal trim.

 

[a1320eclipse]

I understand what hes sayin. Hes not talking about breaking records. He talking about seeing DSM's and EVO's being competitive at NSCRA, IFO and BOTI events and such. True street you can run AWD. But like Outlaw you have to run a FWD car, thats what the class is for. And there are some guys that run DSM's and EVO's in these classes. But 2 or three of them is gonna be out shadowed by 20 hondas that are running the same times or a little quicker.

 

[okcpopeman]

Darren Thomas was the OVERALL points champion in IFO 2 years in a row (08 & 09) with his Auto AWD Eclipse and the only reason he stopped trying to make all the races and continue to win the championships was the lack of support for his class. The rules kept getting changed and he basically ended up being put in a class that had little to no racers entering it. Some things have been changing again with IFO and we may start traveling again to some more races but we have some goals we are trying to hit first.

 

[JohnTSI]

Most of the rules in those classes where switched so heavily to support Honda's its not worth it. Payouts fell to crap as did contingency money. You are likely too young to remember but there was a time when in some classes they had their own rules restricting turbo size on the 4g63 only when it came to 4 cylinders. Perhaps one day import racing will start to grow to what it once was but until then very few people will invest what it takes to follow a series with that it has become.

 

[slowgsr]

Most of the rules in those classes where switched so heavily to support Honda's its not worth it.

Exactly.

 

[OstarMotorsport]

Most of the rules in those classes where switched so heavily to support Honda's its not worth it. Payouts fell to crap as did contingency money. You are likely too young to remember but there was a time when in some classes they had their own rules restricting turbo size on the 4g63 only when it came to 4 cylinders. Perhaps one day import racing will start to grow to what it once was but until then very few people will invest what it takes to follow a series with that it has become.

I remember the days when we used to go to Moroso (now PBIR) and there was nothing but 18 wheelers parked with all the cars out and classes full and stands packed. Those were the days!

Maybe we can come together again and get some sponsor backing of big names like in the old days.

 

[laser90]

I remember the days when we used to go to Moroso (now PBIR) and there was nothing but 18 wheelers parked with all the cars out and classes full and stands packed. Those were the days!

Maybe we can come together again and get some sponsor backing of big names like in the old days.

Ahhhhh the good ol days.....how I miss them so.

 

[gsxkid81]

i plan on running my car in the 67mm class maybe as early as the end of this season but it will more likely be begging of next season.chris miller and ngr tech are no more. he went bankrupt however charm city tuning out of md has gone 9.16 in the 67mm turbo class.i would love to be able to run mid to low 9s

also i dont think the rules are to bad to follow and still be competitive.a good setup with a 67mm billet wheel turbo could make 850+whp and be very competitive against the hondas.

 

[TRIXTSI]

chris miller and ngr tech are no more. he went bankrupt however charm city tuning out of md has gone 9.16 in the 67mm turbo class.i would love to be able to run mid to low 9s

Wow i didn't know that

So the orange camo hatch will no longer be raced

For me personally all the sanctioned racing has been hit hard by the economy and lack of interest in import drag racing up here in Northern CA.

Heck BOTI has stopped coming here and our only other option CMI (California Modified Imports) has changed all but 1 race to TNT instead of cash pay-out racing

Not that my Evo is anywhere close to competing in the 8 sec zone but........i look up to Jeff B. and the English racing guys for building and traveling as much as they do to show rep what a 4g63 drag car can do

 

[eclipsed4seed99]

I can say if I was closer to where all the ifo races were Id compete more, I do race competitively with my car, it just sucks for me to have to travel over 2000 miles 1 way to get in on all these killer races, so I pick and choose, I will be hitting the Shoot Out this year, I wanted to do the Pan Americans and Import vs Domestics, no budget this year wont let me go. I am how ever hitting the West Coast Shootout at Sacramento on July 30-31, also the Vegas IFO weather permitting, Seattle IFO, and anything in between,

I'm still waiting for the OKC crew to destroy the auto AWD record, was rumored it was in SERIOUS jeopardy last spring, SOOOOOO quiet you can hear a pin drop.

 

[a1320eclipse]

i plan on running my car in the 67mm class maybe as early as the end of this season but it will more likely be begging of next season.chris miller and ngr tech are no more. he went bankrupt however charm city tuning out of md has gone 9.16 in the 67mm turbo class.i would love to be able to run mid to low 9s

also i dont think the rules are to bad to follow and still be competitive.a good setup with a 67mm billet wheel turbo could make 850+whp and be very competitive against the hondas.

He didnt go bankrupt, he and Tom at NRG just split ways. He has opened up CMR. NRG is still in business as well as CMR (Chris Miller Racing).

http://chrismillerracing.blogspot.com/

 

[rhamlinii]

I can say if I was closer to where all the ifo races were Id compete more, I do race competitively with my car, it just sucks for me to have to travel over 2000 miles 1 way to get in on all these killer races, so I pick and choose, I will be hitting the Shoot Out this year, I wanted to do the Pan Americans and Import vs Domestics, no budget this year wont let me go. I am how ever hitting the West Coast Shootout at Sacramento on July 30-31, also the Vegas IFO weather permitting, Seattle IFO, and anything in between,

I'm still waiting for the OKC crew to destroy the auto AWD record, was rumored it was in SERIOUS jeopardy last spring, SOOOOOO quiet you can hear a pin drop.

Do you think you could come down for 2012?

 

[Pipnorcali]

Import drag racing has been dying slowly for many years now ( damm drifting..) you have any idea the cost involved with a full blown race team ( I remember Adam s. running a 75 k rear end and cage setup back in the day) times have changed and there is no money anymore... You NorCal guys complain but the SoCal race scene sucks waay more ( 1/8 mile tracks)

 

[Mr4G]

I race competitively in lower classes. 11.50 index and bracket 2. Would I like to be the fastest car in the world? yes. but I also work with a budget and am more about having fun. A lot of people go out and instead of building their cars around the class they can race in and be competitive, they build there cars to be the fastest car in the world and end up giving up on them.

 

[rhamlinii]

I race competitively in lower classes. 11.50 index and bracket 2. Would I like to be the fastest car in the world? yes. but I also work with a budget and am more about having fun. A lot of people go out and instead of building their cars around the class they can race in and be competitive, they build there cars to be the fastest car in the world and end up giving up on them.

True, for you and I. However, there are alot of shop cars that were built and currently are not being used. AMS, bucshur, English Racing, and many other 4G63 race cars are collecting dust. AMS drag Evo, is currently forsale. I guess times are hard for us all. I built my car for a class, but what I consider fun is just building, racing, and winning at the same time.

 

[shortydtp]

I would love to see people ditch the awd setups, and get on the Fwd wagon and compete in the Fwd classes against 90+ Hondas and really make a mitsu vs honda battles

 

[rhamlinii]

I would love to see people ditch the awd setups, and get on the Fwd wagon and compete in the Fwd classes against 90+ Hondas and really make a mitsu vs honda battles

I actually brought a GST last year, but it was stolen by a previous owner. I would have tried it out once again, as it would have been my 3rd FWD 4g63 powered car. I known alot of friends thru the years wiith fast cars. After Roger broke 9.30s with his prelude this past year, it really showed me that anything is possiable if your willing to work to achieve a goal. He built and races his own car. It's very possiable to be competitive, even with heavy FWD cars. I decided to go back to AWD during my 14b project, as it felt better at the time. My current car is the 7th DSM, ive owned.

 

[okcpopeman]

I'm still waiting for the OKC crew to destroy the auto AWD record, was rumored it was in SERIOUS jeopardy last spring, SOOOOOO quiet you can hear a pin drop.

So, I totally missed when this was originally posted. All in due time my friend. Underestimate us if you like, we get motivation from that.

 

[okDSMchica]

So, I totally missed when this was originally posted. All in due time my friend. Underestimate us if you like, we get motivation from that.

Ferrit- I can haz record?!