Distrubutor O ring on 4G63T?

[I-luv-em-all]

Ok, I took my car to the absolute worst mechanics shop in the world.

I got my motor rebuilt by a very respected machine shop, and he recommended taking it to that shop to get them to put it in. Well that shop has been nothing but problems ever since. It took them one month to put it in for one, when the book quotes 17 hours but anyway.

I noticed the car was leaking oil, which I later had to get fixed because the oil pan had a hair line crack in it. And about a week later I noticed their was still oil leaking, so I took it back to them again. I went back to the shop after work and they said the oil leak was fixed, and I said where was it coming from and they said it was leaking from the distributor O-ring, I thought nothing of it and took my car home. Then I looked at the receipt they gave me and It said "distributor O-ring leaking due to customer adjusting timing!" "if customer plays with vehicle in any way warranty is void on engine!"
I was like WFT, One I didn't adjust the timing and two my car doesn't even had a distributor, I didn't think....

So do you think they even fixed anything or what. I want to go back their on Monday to explain, any ideas on what I should say to these idiots?

 

[Liger]

Tell them they are full of crap. Bring in a manual for your car and make them look like a bunch of crooks. I would have then replace the oil pan and anything else that might be messed up free of charge. And yeah our cars do not have a distributor, and even so, why the hell would oil leak of a distributor cap? Those people need to go back engine basics 101.

 

[I-luv-em-all]

Ok, that is what I thought. They think just because I have a datalogger that I can just mess with anything about my car and control it.

I will bring my manual and give them a piece of my mind. Thanks.

 

[project_tsi]

Right, becuase our cars have distributors. I wonder what "o-ring", if any, they did replace? Take it back, show them the coil pack (the thing where the plug wires are hooked up to, in the intake mani, and show that that the ONLY way to adjust base timing on a 1G is by the CAS ( the knob on the left of the head by the intake cam gear). Tell them they are full of shit, and you demand a refund, and never take your car to them again.

 

[peregrine]

uhhh, you guys should know that the CAS has an o ring on it and thats whats probably leaking. so what if they call it a distributor? its an easy fix, do it yourself. if you dont like others working on your car learn to do it yourself then you can never bi*** about anything

 

[project_tsi]

Its true, the CAS does have an o-ring seal. But even if the shop called it a distributor, its not. Sure, it does the same as a distrubutor, but a reputable shop should really know there distributorless car "lingo"

 

[peregrine]

Its true, the CAS does have an o-ring seal. But even if the shop called it a distributor, its not. Sure, it does the same as a distrubutor, but a reputable shop should really know there distributorless car "lingo"

come on man. theyre canadian j/k

 

[kicker91laser]

This is the exact reason I do all of the work on my cars

 

[I-luv-em-all]

I usually do all of the work on my car, except for major stuff like a motor swap, I'm not saying I couldn't do it but I wanted it done right, but I guess that backfired .

My car is running like ass now. If they did replace that gasket is it possible that they could have the CAS not aligned properly and the timing could be "out" a little??

 

[Talesin]

Possible... when I had mine rebuilt, somehow the shop assistant managed to put the sensor axle-bit on rotated 180 degrees. It did run... kinda.. then he flipped it and it was happy. Timing also could be too far advanced or retarded, if they're as clueless as their invoice makes them sound.

 

[Quasimondo]

Its true, the CAS does have an o-ring seal. But even if the shop called it a distributor, its not. Sure, it does the same as a distrubutor, but a reputable shop should really know there distributorless car "lingo"

Even though the CAS has an o-ring, when you loosen it up to adjust the timing, it should not disturb that ring unless you completely remove the CAS from the head. Timing adjustments will not cause that o-ring to leak.

 

[kicker91laser]

Even though the CAS has an o-ring, when you loosen it up to adjust the timing, it should not disturb that ring unless you completely remove the CAS from the head. Timing adjustments will not cause that o-ring to leak.

If a shop can find something to save their a$$, they will, even if it isn't even true.

 

[snox135]

Your best bet is to report them to the Better Business Bureau, if you have anything like that in Canada.

 

[Liger]

If they damaged your engine or any part of your car, try and get some proof and pictures and take them to small claims court (if you have something similar) up in canada. Generally down here in the us, the court favors heavily the customer (at least in all the cases i have been envolved in and studied) Brandon [VFRacing]

 

[I-luv-em-all]

If they don't get my car running in primo condition, I think I will take them to court.

But if I do, what can I get out of it?

 

[Goobdog]

If the CAS is 180 out will it stutter real bad like a boost leak ?

 

[Liger]

If your engine was damaged or any other part of your car you will most likely get it fixed if the courts decide in your favor.

 

[I-luv-em-all]

If the CAS is 180 out will it stutter real bad like a boost leak ?

Well those are pretty much exactly the symtoms I have so it is definatly a possibly.

 

[I-luv-em-all]

I am going to go to the shop tomorrow to get them to check my timing, and actually watch them do it.

If the CAS is out of line, will the base timing still be 5 degrees or what? Or what do I go about doing and making sure it is in time? I better know, because I am sure thinking they are not going to know.

 

[Goobdog]

If the CAS is 180 out they need to unbolt it from the head and flip the " button " around and reinstall it. There is a plug in on the firewall that needs to be grounded to set the base timing. They need to ground that then they can check it with a timing light and adjust the CAS as needed.

Edit: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/wayback/BradBauer/engine/timing.html