declutering the engine bay

[TimF]

I am working on a shell and figure while I have the motor out to clean and declutter the engine bay a bit. I already pulled a bunch of aftermarket wire that the former owner put in, and a couple of extra hoses I know I didn't need. I plan on pressure washing the engine bay and giving everything a fresh coat of black paint, getting ride of that matting against the fire wall, dropping the engine harness a bit, and want to get ride of as much stuff as I don't need. what else could be done?

I also want to get ride of the power steering lines, but want to keep power steering. Is there a way to run AN SS lines or just even rubber line and kind of tuck them away.

 

[91-GS]

This should give you an idea of what it will look like all cleaned up. As far as power steering (or P/S) goes, you can relocate it to where the air conditioner compressor was if you are planning on removing it. There are P/S relocation kits for sale, just gotta look for them.

 

[GSLENK]

you will have to use stainless braided teflon hose. not fun to work with, not cheap. stick with fragola or aeroquip to avoid eminent leaks from chinese versions. Expect to pay over $100 near $200 to do this.

 

[TimF]

thanks for that link, I don't want to pay that much to get ride of them . I like that color they used on the P/S lines that would make it flow better, I am trying to stick with blue/black for my engine bay.

 

[91-GS]

I like that color they used on the P/S lines that would make it flow better, I am trying to stick with blue/black for my engine bay.

Do you mean "flow" as in "visually, look like a part of a whole"? Or "flow" as in "be capable of passing more flud through"?

For color you can always put colored wire loom over stock rubber P/S lines, but that might look too cheap.

 

[TimF]

yes I meant flow as in looks not fluid sorry

I noticed in one of those engine bays that they had red rubber PS line it looked good

 

[91-GS]

yes I meant flow as in looks not fluid sorry

Can keep your stock black P/S lines but get blue spark plug wires. radiaror hoses, vacuum hoses, things of that nature since they are right there on top and are one of the first things a person notices when looking at the engine. On related note to wire-looming the lines... What about heatshrink tubing? It will look smoother than wire loom, still a bit 'rice' though. Just did a quick search for P/S lines and all that came up were stock (black).

 

[TimF]

I was going for the blue radiator hose and spark plug wires, but wanted black vac lines, I don't want to over blue it. as Far as dropping everything below the line of sight do I just use self tapping screw to re fasten everything in?

 

[91-GS]

That can be a possibility. Use short self-tapping screws and some kind of little clamps like thses:

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around the bundles of wires to hold them, but be careful about what you are screwing them into. Always check what's on the other side of the metal. Since it will be hidden anyway it won't really matter how it looks, unless it's one of those "i know noone will ever see it but i know what's there and i want it to look good" things.

 

[Spaz5spd]

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This is my engine bay tucked and modded

 

[TimF]

when it starts getting warmer I am going to wash the engine bay, but our Chicago weather is really making that a long ways away

another thing I noticed is that the Throttle cable is lopped around the strut tower and fasted down, you can kind of see it coming out from the tower in the pic. I don't think it is supposed to be that way?

 

[91-GS]

Wire tuck merged threads and questions

Underhood connections for 1G DSM

 

[TimF]

ok got some more done. I am going to do a fresh coat of paint next week. I am just wondering is it necessary to have all those little solenoids like the one I have in the pic? And I was wondering as far as making the PS lines a bit more eye friendly would some of that vinyl you apply with a heat gun work? I was thinking it should be flexible enough for it. And how low can I drop my engine harness? sorry those threads gave good pics but not a lot of how to.

 

[Spaz5spd]

ok got some more done. I am going to do a fresh coat of paint next week. I am just wondering is it necessary to have all those little solenoids like the one I have in the pic? And I was wondering as far as making the PS lines a bit more eye friendly would some of that vinyl you apply with a heat gun work? I was thinking it should be flexible enough for it. And how low can I drop my engine harness? sorry those threads gave good pics but not a lot of how to.

Go manual rack and run the harness through fenders

 

[91-GS]

Would some of that vinyl you apply with a heat gun work? And how low can I drop my engine harness?

Using vinyl does not sound like a good idea, although i have never tried it on a rubber hose. Will it even stick?
What do you mean by "drop the engine harness"?

 

[Spaz5spd]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437179

 

[GSLENK]

I am just wondering is it necessary to have all those little solenoids like the one I have in the pic?

I believe 2 of them are a part of the FPR solenoid setup. The other is... uh I dont remember its been a while. All I know for sure is I have an AFPR, and I removed all emissions EGR etc..., BCS removed (since I have MBC). From my research while I eas doing those mods, all that was able to be removed without negative consequence.

 

[Spaz5spd]

I believe 2 of them are a part of the FPR solenoid setup. The other is... uh I dont remember its been a while. All I know for sure is I have an AFPR, and I removed all emissions EGR etc..., BCS removed (since I have MBC). From my research while I eas doing those mods, all that was able to be removed without negative consequence.

I removed mine without tuning software, idles as if cammed. Will be better after tuning software. Deleted egr/evap ones change without them

 

[TimF]

dropping it so you cant see it, like moving it down below were it was. I don't want to do a manual rack, to much time and effort , and I don't want to loss PS. I have DSMlink V3 full and am running a aero FPR so I can just get ride of all those then right?

and btw my 02 sensor is relocated t my down pipe so I can run that behind the motor to

 

[Spaz5spd]

dropping it so you cant see it, like moving it down below were it was. I don't want to do a manual rack, to much time and effort , and I don't want to loss PS. I have DSMlink V3 full and am running a aero FPR so I can just get ride of all those then right?

and btw my 02 sensor is relocated t my down pipe so I can run that behind the motor to

Takes a little more time but what I did was cut away all factory conduit, separated each group of sensors that lead to a spot, twisted the wiring, electrical taped them so they wouldn't untwist, reconduit with smaller size... Easier to relocate and hide. Reduced clutter by at least 50%

 

[Spaz5spd]

Takes a little more time but what I did was cut away all factory conduit, separated each group of sensors that lead to a spot, twisted the wiring, electrical taped them so they wouldn't untwist, reconduit with smaller size... Easier to relocate and hide. Reduced clutter by at least 50%

I'm running the 420a motor but writing is wiring. If you have DSM link if think you can remove solenoids and just do full delete, then remove from current map you have in tuning software so it doesn't look for them.