could bad 2nd gear cause grinding at idle?

[lil corb]

My 2nd gear has been out since I bought car, typical grinding and such. I can put it in 2nd put would have to hold shift lever hard and let go of clutch slowly. It does grind if I can't do it right. Question is recently I have been hearing grinding and chattering coming from tranny at idle and when I press clutch it goes away. Now it sounds like typical TOB sound, but I searched archives and read someone had same symptoms and he pulled his tranny apart and found out his 2nd gear was missing some teeth. could that cause it too? Is it just a bad TOB? How do you check to see if the input shaft is bad too? would that only apply if car is moving and I hear the chattering sound? My tranny is in real bad shape it grinds if I shift too quick. It's on it's dying leg and I'm saving up for shepard real soon. I just want to know if it something other than what I listed that I have to be worried about?

BTW: Stock Clutch which is on it's way out

thanks

 

[dsm-onster]

Hmm, possibly a synchro issue.... Also, if you're daring, you could pull the 5th gear casing and see if your end nuts for the transmission shafts are loose/falling out. This could cause all your gears to move forward maybe just enough to screw up your secnd gear. I don't know just something you should check on. This is why mine and most other dsms i know have dropped trannies in the past (believe it or not, it wasn't from the 5500 rpm bombs).

 

[lil corb]

aight thanks for info.

 

[lil corb]

also the synchros would cause chattering at idle?

 

[l3igl3ang]

my gst has a synchro out and dosent have 4th gear but it has no chattering.

my esi has chattering when driveing and ideling when clutch is out when its in it dosent do it and also its worse in cold weather i think its the TOB cause i just had a new clucth put it costing me a crap load of cash.

 

[lil corb]

aight I'm going to assume it's TOB. Looks like my tranny is going to be more than the $895 price on standard repair. Not a problem though as long as it's worth it.

thanks guys