Cold air intake sucks up water?

[Ballin' GS]

i believe the table spoon thing, but you are making it seem like if i a table spoon of water hits your filter, it will hydrolock. it takes a lot of water for your engine to start suckin it up. why suck up a heavier and denser liquid when a gas is still available. when the water starts taking over the entire filter it will start sucking in water and kill it. it doesnt take much water in the cylinder to kill it but it takes alot for it to start sucking it up.

Exactly what I'm saying. You made it sound like if someone took a tablespoon of water and threw it on your air filter your engine will hydrolock. I know when i have done it it was a big puddle of water and a very submerged filter. But when you say 1 of the 4 cylinders has a tablespoon of water in it that makes alot more sense. And why in the hell would you test to see how much water it takes to hydrolock an engine?

 

[Robmoto_7s]

Why not test it? If you have the money and know how, go for it, maybe he saved some people a bit of heart ache after he found out how much danger was involved with sucking up water through your filter....never the less, we need not to fight over it, facts are facts; There are enough people that have had it happen to them to know the dangers of hydrolocking an engine, just learn from our mistakes.....um, and tests too i suppose

 

[Defiant]

Well summarized.

I'm afraid it just turns into a yelling match from here on out.

 

[TurboGraphX]

I'm sorry everyone. I didn't mean to turn this into a big debate.
As for the sucking up water... , I didn't mean that 1 tablespoon of water on your filter is enough to hydrolock the engine. i'm sorry if that's the way that it sounded. What i meant was a tablespoon of water in the cylinder. Granted, the filter doesn't catch much water anyway unless it is out in the open.... but cumulatively, the water that splashes onto the filter does get drawn into the filter and inductions stream in small amounts and does add up if the engine can't blow it through in time.
Anyway, as for the CAI, they are nice and look good... but a short ram will give just as much benefit anyway, so to me, it isn't worth the risk as i have to make long trips in the rain.
Sorry again for any missunderstandings.
ken

 

[Ballin' GS]

No problem i understand what you are saying now. Even if i still don't see the reason with trying to hydrolock an engine . But i agree with you on the ram air/ cold air power increases. I have both and in the winter time when i switch mine i don't notice a power difference really at all, not there theres much of a difference anyways with an n/t.

 

[realitytb]

Im gonna make my own intake Home Depot here i come!

 

[GSGoinFast]

No problem i understand what you are saying now. Even if i still don't see the reason with trying to hydrolock an engine . But i agree with you on the ram air/ cold air power increases. I have both and in the winter time when i switch mine i don't notice a power difference really at all, not there theres much of a difference anyways with an n/t.

if your switching to a short ram in the winter time, the air is going to be way colder as it enters the engine bay, so the short ram will be recieving air in the winter that is relativly the same temperature as a cold air does in the summer.

 

[Ballin' GS]

Good point, never thought of that, however i'm comparing right before i switch and after i switch when its the same temperature. I'll admitt tho the only reason i like the CAI is the sound and the look. But then again i bought an N/t so i wasn't really looking for big power from bolt ons.

 

[GSGoinFast]

Good point, never thought of that, however i'm comparing right before i switch and after i switch when its the same temperature. I'll admitt tho the only reason i like the CAI is the sound and the look. But then again i bought an N/t so i wasn't really looking for big power from bolt ons.

i bought an NT... then i learned about what i bought... if i would have known before, i probably would have bought a turbo, but i was naive and just happy to have a nice car that wasnt a civic... but now im looking for big power

 

[senseiturtle]

I lost my first VR6 engine to hydrolock. The puddle wasn't very deep, either. Thank god for insurance, because I had to import another engine from germany. Total cost: $6,972. Total cost to me: $232.66


Just buy a short-ram, don't worry about cold air. Try to save a few bucks, and buy a mod that will really make you some power (cams, etc). The 2 whp you'll lose is well worth the peace of mind that you won't shell out for a new engine.


Yes, hydrolock does happen... and it happens often. Don't be the fool who says "it won't happen to me."


Oh... and to hydrolock your engine, you'll need about 50% of the chamber volume to be full of water at TDC. (Maybe less) For a 2 litre engine running 10:1 compression (all ballpark, just illustrating), that amounts to approx. .025 litres... or 25 mL. An NA 4 cyl engine can suck in 300-400 cubic feet of air per minute. That's a lot of sucking power.

Yes, my math isn't exact, but I'm not too generous about it. I lost my engine to it.

 

[ninjai_ruken]

I am just saying that I have never had a problem with it and I have gone trough many puddles With a good K&N the only way it could "suck" any water is for it to be under water either half way or all the way...My K&N cone filter that I used to have on my used to be NT had a oil residue that helped stopped water from being sucked in due to rain, or splashing trough a puddle. if you treat any car like a boat I.E. Driving trough a deep puddle of course its going to suck up water. If I was not sure how deep a puddle was I would drive around it. And if it went all the way accross the street I would drive around the block.