Clutch shopping help!!!!

[Sernadaburna]

It's about that time for a new clutch in my 95 awd eagle talon. When i got my car tuned it was slipping a bit but as time has gone on it only getting worse so it's time. I need to know what clutch would you recommend for 340hp to the wheels n about 300lb torque. I eventually want 2 go bigger i have a evo 16g now but wanna get at least to 450hp to the wheels what would you prefer thats reliable and streetable as well.

 

[ian_maham]

I second this question. Same position, 95 Tsi Awd...

 

[black_gst]

an act 2600 with a street disc should hold up to about 400hp i think... you could always go with a 2600 and a sprung 6 puck but drivablity will drop a bit

 

[delta448]

You could get by with a less extreme ACT 2100 right now and eventually just get a sprung hub 6 puck disk. The street disk would be fine for right now and make it slightly easier to drive on the street. Then in a few years when it gets some wear and you start pushing more torque than it can hold, just upgrade the disk to a sprung hub 6 puck disk. The sprung hub will make it easier to daily drive than a solid puck style disk, but it will be slightly more grabby than the full-faced street disk. The sprung 6 puck disk combined with the 2100 plate is advertised as capable of holding 412 ftlbs of torque, which is slightly more than the 400 ftlbs that a 2600 plate with a full faced street disk is advertised as holding.

 

[mitsuproracer]

ACT 2600. The 2100 starts to lose power after 300-325 if I'm not mistaken. Or you can get a Fidanza 3.2 or so.

 

[FUNWHEELDRIVE]

+1^^^^
The ACT 2100 with 6puck sprung disk can hold more than the ACT 2600 with street disk. it will also be alot less hard on you leg if you are looking for streetability, although it will have a little bit of a rougher engagment than the street disk.

i am looking at the same thing and have been debating between the 2. i have decided to go with the 2100 with the 6puck sprung disk. make sure you get the 6puck SPRUNG and not the SOLID disk because the solid will have much rougher engagment.

 

[Sernadaburna]

alright thanks alot guys i am thinking about the act 2100 with the 6puck but is it necessary to swap out the flywheel as well cause i was thinking about the avt street lite flywheel or should i not just bother let me know thanks1

 

[black_gst]

The 2100 with a 6 puck is another good choice. But u will have to change the way u drive. A friend of mine loved this combo but he said he had to slip the clutch more because it was really grabby and he burned through that clutch in less then a year. He runs a 2600 with the street disc now. If this car is gonna be a DD I would suggest the 2600 and the street disc and an ACT flyweel is worth it if you have the cash to spend

 

[LiquidX]

Fidanza is another good choice as well. I was rocking out the 4.3 6 puck which has pressure feel of the 2100 but more holding than the 2600. I currently have a flywheel up for sale in the classifieds.

 

[delta448]

alright thanks alot guys i am thinking about the act 2100 with the 6puck but is it necessary to swap out the flywheel as well cause i was thinking about the avt street lite flywheel or should i not just bother let me know thanks1

I'd try to get the flywheel too. IMO, its worth it. It will free up some wasted horsepower and the engine will rev much quicker, but you'll be more apt to stall out on takeoff until you get used to it.

One thing to note, the flywheel must have the correct step height or the clutch won't release right; so if you decide to reuse the one on the car now you should at least have it resurfaced and the step height corrected. That would obviously take care of any warping and hot spots on the wheel too.

 

[Sernadaburna]

More or less i can reuse the old flywheel but it needs to get resurfaced and set at the correct height o.k. Cause im using the car as a DD n dont wanna deal with the stalling out which would only take me a day to get used to but ahhhh i dont wanna deal with it now. thanks for all your input

 

[flinguist]

A lot of shops recommend ACT, with your power level might as well go with a 2600, and street disc. If you decide to get a flywheel stay away from the Fidanza's. Jack's Transmissions recommends ACT stuff, and the shop that worked on my car (Showdown Motorsports) says to go with ACT also.
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/pages/dsm-clutch-selection

 

[LiquidX]

A lot of shops recommend ACT, with your power level might as well go with a 2600, and street disc. If you decide to get a flywheel stay away from the Fidanza's. Jack's Transmissions recommends ACT stuff, and the shop that worked on my car (Showdown Motorsports) says to go with ACT also.
Jacks Transmissions LLC — DSM Clutch Selection

So what is wrong with Fidanza? Between both threads, ACT has more failures than Fidanza. The flywheel is very nice and have ran once since my first DSM without any issues at all. I ran an ACT 2600 as well and I didn't like it as much as the 6 puck Fidanza I was using afterwards.

 

[JayRolla]

IMO the ACT street disc is ok if you plan on never abusing the clutch. If you are going to hit the strip and maybe launch a few times in a row I would go with there unsprung 4 puck. Thats what I run and its what Jack at jackstranmissions recommends when using an ACT pressure plate. The ceramic material is a lot stronger not to mention it cools faster since there is less material to heat up in a puck style disc. Also its unsprung so it has less parts to fail. I have no issues daily driving my ACT 2600 4 puck unsprung with a fidanza flywheel.

 

[flinguist]

So what is wrong with Fidanza? Between both threads, ACT has more failures than Fidanza. The flywheel is very nice and have ran once since my first DSM without any issues at all. I ran an ACT 2600 as well and I didn't like it as much as the 6 puck Fidanza I was using afterwards.

There's some QC problems with the Fidanza flywheels. Step height not correct, dowel pins fall out, surface warps w/ too much heat. The only reason I mention this is because I was considering one for my car, and the shop that was doing the work told me to stay away from the fidanza flywheel. They had a pile of bad ones the owner of the shop showed me.

 

[LiquidX]

I haven't had any problems with the ones I've used and have a new 6 bolt waiting to be put on as well...

Surface warping from heat shouldn't happen if you know how to drive properly . Also, I wasn't aware that clutch temperatures would heat up the steel ring to such temperatures to warp it.

 

[T_K]

I would recommend the SPEC Stage 3+ but only when I figure out whether my issue with clutch longevity is due to my install error or the clutch itself. It absolutely beats the 2600 in driveability and supposedly holds more (so far I can't verify the last). Then again my 2600 "with an almost new disk" died a lot quicker than the SPEC. Anyway just giving you some heads up to keep open to different options than the staple ACTs.

 

[sicktsi]

I have a act 2600 6 puck sprung disk with the act chromoly flywheel and have had no issues. I had it installed at my shop and plan on having upwards of 500whp and torque soon. I was told it would have no problems holding it.