Clutch choice

[vanilla gorilla]

Ok I need help deciding on a clutch. Yeah i know there are a million threads about it but my car doesnt fit into any of the other categories, so.

I've got a 99 Eclipse Spyder GS 2.4L SOHC.
Mods:
-14b turbo on SBR manifold w/ TiAL wastegate @ 9psi
-All supporting mods
-balance shaft elimination
-FMIC w/ all hard pipes
-helluvalotta bolt ons.
-Est. 250 hp at the crank

Anyway the stock clutch went to poopie in no time, so in went the Zoom Stage 2, which grabbed good at the time, because i used to pedal the car at about 40% throttle to keep it from over boosting. Still ran like a raped ape but now I have my external wastegate and am pushin 9psi, and the zoom clutch didnt even last a trip around the block.

So now I need a new clutch, any clutch from a 2g FWD turbo will work.
I will be doing a little bit of drag racing and alot of spirited street driving.
I drive the car 2 or 3 times a weak and I beat the pure S out of the car the whole way.
I make aggressive high RPM shifts.
Basically I need a streeatable hardcore clutch that will take the abuse I throw at it and last. Also don't need anything so aggressive as to add to the risk of crank walk.

I don't want an A.C.T. brand. Been looking at Fidanza. Which series fidanza would be for me? What are some other clutches that would be what I am looking for?

Thanks alot for any help in advance.

vanilla g

 

[95eclipser]

you could prob start looking at slowboyracings own clutch line they have three clutches all in differant hp areas...theres the

3500,4000 and 4500


4000 is a good choice for any thing close to or over 400hp but is a little strong feeling

anything exedy would be good to or clutch master but check out sbr

 

[mbones25]

Why do you not want an ACT Clutch?

Everything I have read to date seems to point that the ACT 2600 works very well in our DSMs with moderate mods. Then for the Heavy mods, the ACT 2900 seems to be popular as well. I beleive I will be going the ACT 2600 route with my GST once I have the funds together.

 

[1gDSM4g63]

ACT 2100 or Fidanza 3.2.

 

[kahl23]

I had a terrible experience with the SBR 3500, street disk and a 16g. Clutch was toast after less than one season, flywheel was beat to hell, but salvageable. Now I run a 2600, no problems thus far.

 

[vanilla gorilla]

A guy on my other forum had his A.C.T. clutch fall apart. I think it shot a spring out or something, can't really remember. But I guess I will look into the 2600.
Don't really want to mess with the SBR brand though, I don't really care to deal with SBR too much.

 

[kahl23]

A little while ago, maybe a year or so, maybe longer, ACT had a batch of clutches that tended to have the springs in the clutch disk disintegrate and wedge between the disk and flywheel, but I believe they have fixed this problem. I sure hope so, as I have an ACT in right now

 

[91DSMFAN]

Have you considered any of Fidanza's Clutch offerings? I have yet to read anything bad about there Clutch's, but there Flywheels are another story.

 

[greddyturbo19]

DUDE SERIOUSLLY GET A ACT 2600 WITH A Fidanza FLYWHEEL. AWSOME. I PERSONALLY LOVE THE ACT WITH THE 6 PUCK THE PEDAL IS HARD AS FUH BUT IT GETS THE JOB DONE HAS NEVER SLIPPED!!!

 

[vanilla gorilla]

I was actually thinking about going with the fidanza 3.2 or possibly the ACT 2600. whats wrong with fidanza flywheels? Because I was going to go ahead and do one of those also. What would be a better flywheel to go with?

 

[Ryn1727]

i have an act 2100 and it works perfect, i would highly recommend act.

 

[rodent]

I'm thinking of going with the ACT 2900 which I've heard good things about. With your mods, the 2600 sounds like a good choice.

 

[91DSMFAN]

A lot of people love and swear by the Fidanza Flywheel but I have read of some issues with the Friction Surface.

 

[vanilla gorilla]

As of right now I'm leaning towards this clutch:
EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Fidanza 3.2 Performance Clutch Kit : Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99

And this flywheel:
EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Fidanza Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel : Mitsubishi Eclipse 90-99 Turbo

Good combo?

 

[1gDSM4g63]

A guy on my other forum had his A.C.T. clutch fall apart. I think it shot a spring out or something, can't really remember. But I guess I will look into the 2600.
Don't really want to mess with the SBR brand though, I don't really care to deal with SBR too much.

Yeah, I have ACT 2600 before which only last 3,000 miles. I wouldn't doubt the ACT clutch but the kit of the kit is crap which cannot hold up to what the actual clutch is capable of. But now I'm on a Fidanza 4.3 which is superb and is rated to hold more torque then the 2600.

 

[vanilla gorilla]

Yeah ACT is no longer an option in my mind thats why I'm lookin at the fidanza 3.2.

So you have the 4.3? That clutch looks pretty hardcore. I have no doubt that the power handling ability is top notch, but how is the pedal feel and engagement?

 

[rodent]

So what about the ACT 2900? Has anyone had problems with that model???

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Yeah ACT is no longer an option in my mind thats why I'm lookin at the fidanza 3.2.

So you have the 4.3? That clutch looks pretty hardcore. I have no doubt that the power handling ability is top notch, but how is the pedal feel and engagement?

The pedal is comparable to the ACT 2100 for the 4.3 and it ceramic the engagement on a problem all at. It will catch but in the winter when it snows that maybe a little chattering.

 

[1gDSM4g63]

So what about the ACT 2900? Has anyone had problems with that model???

What mods do you have on your car that will need a 2900? I mean you better have a rebuilt transmission if you want a 2900. Also the clutch pressure will be hardassed. Have you ever consider going with the 4.3? It will hold it is rated for more torque.

 

[rodent]

What mods do you have on your car that will need a 2900? I mean you better have a rebuilt transmission if you want a 2900. Also the clutch pressure will be hardassed. Have you ever consider going with the 4.3? It will hold it is rated for more torque.

Will be running a built Jacks tranny with a forged 6 bolt, 10:1 CR, E85, Eagle crank, ported head, GT35r or 4094 turbo. Currently doing a B16g on my stocker until my engine is built.

Won't the hydraulic system take care of the stiffer clutch pressure?

Jack also suggested running a solid clutch disk with no springs. He said they hold up better and aren't that bad to drive on the street.

 

[vanilla gorilla]

The pedal is comparable to the ACT 2100 for the 4.3 and it ceramic the engagement on a problem all at. It will catch but in the winter when it snows that maybe a little chattering.

Nice, I figured that it would be a beast to drive.
So with my particular car and driving habits, would you go with the 3.2 or 4.3 if you were me? Also should I go with that Fidanza flywheel too?

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Will be running a built Jacks tranny with a forged 6 bolt, 10:1 CR, E85, Eagle crank, ported head, GT35r or 4094 turbo. Currently doing a B16g on my stocker until my engine is built.

Won't the hydraulic system take care of the stiffer clutch pressure?

Jack also suggested running a solid clutch disk with no springs. He said they hold up better and aren't that bad to drive on the street.

Is 10:1 pistons a little too much on a 2.0L engine w/ a big turbo?

And no the hydraulic only take care of the clutch displacement. It doesn't do anything to clutch feel. If you're going to get with ACT I'd should you go with a 2600 first before you jump to the 2900. And when I mean that it is really difficult to drive in traffic I mean have to deal with the clutch play,

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Nice, I figured that it would be a beast to drive.
So with my particular car and driving habits, would you go with the 3.2 or 4.3 if you were me? Also should I go with that Fidanza flywheel too?

Well, you don't planning on build up your car more you'd be alright with the 3.2 and lighter flywheel does help fast revving.

Check this video it will answering probably all your question, PRI 2006 - StreetFire.net does a technical intervi - Video.

 

[rodent]

Is 10:1 pistons a little too much on a 2.0L engine w/ a big turbo?

And no the hydraulic only take care of the clutch displacement. It doesn't do anything to clutch feel. If you're going to get with ACT I'd should you go with a 2600 first before you jump to the 2900. And when I mean that it is really difficult to drive in traffic I mean have to deal with the clutch play,

We have a few in Colorado running 10:1 with E85 and no issues and great results. At sea level I wouldn't run 10:1 and a large turbo but you can get away with it up here (5800').
One example of a 10:1 car with a huge turbo out running a busa from a roll:
95 Talon tsi AWD vs. Suzuki Hayabusa....from a roll

Well, have a little under 500miles on the motor now. I am very pleased with 10-1. So far it has met my expectations wonderfully. Already seen multiple pulls to 9k, and it loves it. Definetly feels like it makes power to 8.5k, first gear is the only gear i take to 9k. I believe it spools the to4r a little bit sooner than the 8.5-1 2.3 did, although i do have a different exhaust mani than before, so i cant say for sure, but it definetly spools faster than your average 2.0. The 2.3 definetly had more torque down low, but the 10-1 doesnt feel bad out of boost just not as nice as the 2.3.

15psi is fine on 91. I plan on filling her up this e-85 with week and we will see how that goes. It likes 25psi with a can of Torco in the tank, no knock and good timing

Thanks for the input on the clutch. Sorry to get off the subject.