Cheap dsmers

[pauleyman]

There was a motto during the first ten years or so when the cars were new, "go fast with class". This was in response to idiot honda owners with stripped interiors and home depot plumbing parts under the hood. Sadly this now seems to apply to many dsmers. Let me tell you something, stop supporting this ebay chinese crap. If you cant afford it youve picked the wrong hobby. Buy from reputable vendors who make quality products and do not waste their time with lots of technical questions when you are not buying from them.
There was a time that you simply didnt see a janky dsm because the owner wouldnt allow it.
I cant tell you the number of times ive had some janky dsm owner ask me for help without doing any work or diagnosis on their own (not unlike this newbie section). I dole out experienced advice for free here because I choose to. Vendors who are trying to feed their families are not. To the newest inexperienced guys just starting out we expect newbie questions...for a little while. Those of you that have been around awhile you have no excuse. You dont know how good you have it now vs the early days when there was NO information because it had not been done yet. If you want to see these cars supported then support the vendors that are laying out blood sweat and tears to get it done. If you cant afford it then suck it up and go home until you can.

 

[ThunderChild]

its all marketing. i started out buying only brand name parts for previous cars and projects, but i was young and foolish, paying top dollar for things that neither warranted that price or justified it. i then went to "the dark side" and tried to to everything myself or cheaply, buying all the cheap, ebay parts out there. it bit me in the ass. now ive come full circle and have learned to shop for what i need, hunting for the best price on the part to do the job. it takes longer, but i get better quality and spend less money. that doesnt excuse the fact that ive dumped over 13k into a car that i havent even driven yet, and thats just what ive tallied in actual reciepts.

i think guiding ppl to the proper path is the best course, but in the end ppl will do what they will do. i dont think the platform is going anywhere for a while, but cars getting hacked together doesnt help the surviving numbers. hence why my particular build is an attempt to save an otherwise neglected car.

i just refuse to pay a ridiculous amount of money for a part, just because its one of a few pieces for the platform and a company hikes the price up because they can to make a large margin of profit. im doing another build on a ford 5.4 dohc, and 4 years ago, the melling oil pumps with billet gears were 180 shipped. they are now close to 400, no change in design. just a company jacking up the price because they can and have the demand for them. its the same all over, just have to educate the best we can and suck it up when we get the same questions over and over. i agree, searching is a lost art, but TBH, google gives better results on this site, than the actual search feature built in here. but thats just the nature of the beast.

 

[honda_burner]

a company hikes the price up because they can to make a large margin of profit.

It's not that they do that intentionally, its just what has to be done to pay the bills when you aren't selling items in bulk. If they only expect to sell 20 of item "x", but expect to sell 2,000 of item "y", then naturally item "x" will cost more to cover expenses and still make a profit. Whereas item "y" can have less margin of profit because they'll be making more profit in total due to the number of sales.

I think a big part of the problem is this community acts entitled. There seems to be an idea going around that everything should be sold at next to nothing because we are who we are. No company can operate profitably on that idea. Hence why all our vendors are jumping ship to go to gtr's or are atleast incorporating them into their market base, because we just aren't a viable market anymore.

 

[estoyaqui30]

I think I read somewhere that for the 1999 model year Mitsubishi only sold around 28 thousand ish GSX Eclipses. So they won't expect to make dedicated parts (that are GSX only) 16 years out. It's just no profitable...it's most likely not even break evenable. (That's not even a word)

I had to replace my transmission early this year, no time for waiting for a rebuild, I got a brand new one.....the last one in Mitsubishi inventory and they are no longer made. Now they are not making some of the gears and shafts for them. There will be a point where people will start to have two choices. Get custom made billet gears or abandon the car.

These are not like the old muscle cars of the 60s and 70s where there will always be parts being reproduced. I don't think there will ever be a time when there will be no parts for a small block Chevy or Ford.

 

[chrysler kid]

I ain't paying $600 for a name brand catback.