Can anyone point me to a 2g timing map?

[4gfun]

Apparently this is a good starting point when tuning a 1g/GVR4 at higher boost.

Could someone please point me to one?

Thank you!

 

[DSMnoobsause]

That or an EVO 8 timing map

 

[Lofty]

I wish I could send you my log files.

Works good on my 16g. Haha.

2gtimingin1gecu [ECMTuning - wiki]

 

[4gfun]

I wish I could send you my log files.

Works good on my 16g. Haha.

2gtimingin1gecu [ECMTuning - wiki]

Thanks...I have a stock 1g/gvr4 map handy (not convinced that the timing tables are identical for both from what I remember)....

I am running tunerpro and don't think I can load the ecm files to see the actual numbers. I could do the math....but are you using the first settings on that link or the second set?

I am running tunerpro and have no idea what "Note that DSMLink timing adjustments are active all the time, not just at wide open throttle. So I probably would not run the timing values listed above below, say, 3500 RPM. I might actually use something more like this." means

Thanks so far guys.

 

[c2ypt1c]

2gtimingin1gecu [ECMTuning - wiki]

That is an outdated method based on pre-v3 and the sliders (although I just noticed that there is a link at the bottom of that page).

I suggest you download and install the ecmlink v3 application. Download the 2g .eda file which contains the stock 2g timing map. Open it in ecmlink, go to TmngMaxOct tab, right click and select copy table. Try pasting this in excel or something (perhaps a text editor?).

Not sure how the tunerpro timing map is laid out, in terms of the rpm and load axis, but if worse comes to worst and you can't directly paste it, you can manually go through and match it up...

Here's the link for the stock 2g timing map:
v3configs [ECMTuning - wiki]

 

[WES_393]

If the 2g maps work well, you could always "upgrade" to the Evo fuel and timing tables.

http://www.dsmlink.com/wiki/evo8v3settings

 

[DSMnoobsause]

You're still going to need to fine tune the setup you have to get everything perfect. So I would say it would be pointless to switch maps after using the 2g maps.
The reasoning for switching maps in the first place is that the galant and 1g dsm maps are to aggressive and are prone to causing detonation/knock.

 

[4gfun]

You're still going to need to fine tune the setup you have to get everything perfect. So I would say it would be pointless to switch maps after using the 2g maps.
The reasoning for switching maps in the first place is that the galant and 1g dsm maps are to aggressive and are prone to causing detonation/knock.

You all are great, thanks very much for the help!

 

[MY1GDSM]

Hope this helps... .

Stock 2g Timing maps in Tuner Pro and from the factory chip Image.

And Stock 2g Timing maps from Ecmlink V3 Full

And Last but not least

The 1g Maps from the same for comparison

 

[4gfun]

Hope this helps... .

Stock 2g Timing maps in Tuner Pro and from the factory chip Image.

And Stock 2g Timing maps from Ecmlink V3 Full

And Last but not least

The 1g Maps from the same for comparison

Missed this...this is great, thank you!

 

[MY1GDSM]

Your welcome

 

[4gfun]

What would the 2g timing maps look like in a 1g tunerpro xdf if limited to 12 rows like a 1g xdf is?

I see that there are 16 rows on the 2g maps but only 12 rows on the 1g maps.

How would that translate, provided you are using an unaltered 1g xdf?

Hope this helps... .

Stock 2g Timing maps in Tuner Pro and from the factory chip Image.

And Stock 2g Timing maps from Ecmlink V3 Full

And Last but not least

The 1g Maps from the same for comparison

 

[MY1GDSM]

The 2 maps have different load points for each cell 1 is not the same as 1 et cetera... .

Best I can do at the moment without posting my own Xdf's is let you know which are closest. The 2g's stock have a lot more resolution at lower load(well, over all... . Obviously).

1G - 2G
1 - 3-4
3 - 6
4 - 7
6 - 9-10
7 - 10-11
7-8 - 12
9-10 - 13
11 - 14

If you are using a Stock Unedited 1g Bin you're not going to have a lot of control of thing at anything above about 2.0 load or 14psi as that is what the highest load cell is.

As well you can get a pretty good Idea what the load points are comparing the Ecmlink maps load points and the timing in each cell(That's why I posted them for reference.)

 

[4gfun]

I have a bin with the extended maps. I see the load points, but the load points on my xdf are more like below, but you have definitely given me enough to go on. Thank you

0.50
0.75
1.00
1.25
1.50
1.88
2.25
2.63
3.00
3.38
3.75
4.13

 

[MY1GDSM]

Alright well Best Thing you could do is Dig around and find a Basic Xdf for a Stock 2g Bin and you should be able to open a second Tuner Pro Instance and just Compare thing in front of you and move things over and rescale them as needed.

If you would like I probably could be of more help if you wanted to Email me directly.

Thanks

 

[MY1GDSM]

Alright so I figured I would put this up. It should be Very Close. This is just the Stock Load scale though.

But, comparing the two maps at the same points and showing the amount of difference of the 1G timing Map Vs the 2G.

As well here are two 3D renderings of the 1G Map Vs the 2G Map.

Hope this helps someone.