Bullseye t3/t04b V trim DYNO results!

[1029TSG]

Except for the T-25/28, the Buick Grand National, Chrysler LeBaron and some Volvo applications their all off of some diesel tractor, truck or heavy equipment.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

You say your boost is dropping from 20psi to 15psi? It doesn't really look that way from the dyno graph. Do you have a graph with Torque, that way it's easier to tell what the boost is really doing. That seems to be similiar power we had a customer making on a 57 trim, which according to Bullseye power should make less than the V trim at 19psi. BTW both of the cars had similiar mods.

 

[RavenX]

Yes, whatever you feel you can tune your car for.

I might just have to do that when you come by and see me dyno

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

Actually, if you look up a few posts you will see that I dont know who NS Fabrications is and was hoping you could give me a web address so that I can see if they are a authorized dealer for us. What's wrong with them? Is there something I should know about that company? Sorry we dont carry the EVO O2 elbow and dont have one just laying around to snap a picture of.

Huh, guess I missed that post... Here is the address:

http://www.nsfabrication.com/store/...id=31&osCsid=b6be151d578ca70ae58805b2003ba1d1

Nothing is wrong with them, they offer a really good O2 housing (that is what I was asking about the Evo3 O2 hosing gasket picture... The flange area is my only concern, and since their tubular O2 housing is based off of an Evo3 O2 housing's flange, I just wanted to see a pic of how well it mates up with your cast turbine housing's exhaust flange).

Hmm, looks like I'm not the only one who's not reading things...

I never said anything about an "Evo O2 elbow".

 

[1029TSG]

Sorry, maybe I got ahead of myself. I just checked out their website and that is our housing but they call it the "Monster Turbine Housing" which leads me to believe they might be buying them from Mach V. Likely this is why I've never heard of them, but I'll check with our bookeeper tomorrow.

 

[Stapl3]

http://www.nsfabrication.com/store/...id=36&osCsid=b6be151d578ca70ae58805b2003ba1d1

On the right under the turbo picture.

Site looks very similar to the Bullseye one.

 

[1029TSG]

Do you have any idea how many companies use OSCommerce for their website and shopping cart? Its a great program and best of all its free. They definitely borrowed some pictures from our website. I'm quite positive that we are not this company nor do we make any O2 elbows.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

Do you have any idea how many companies use OSCommerce for their website and shopping cart? Its a great program and best of all its free. They definitely borrowed some pictures from our website. I'm quite positive that we are not this company nor do we make any O2 elbows.

if he made O2 housings i would be selling them. They are hot sellers.

OScommerce is used by so many different "online stores" it's ridiculous.

 

[1029TSG]

Weren't you thinking about using it for your online store at one time? or did you find something else?

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

Sorry, maybe I got ahead of myself. I just checked out their website and that is our housing but they call it the "Monster Turbine Housing" which leads me to believe they might be buying them from Mach V. Likely this is why I've never heard of them, but I'll check with our bookeeper tomorrow.

I thought that with the Mach5 "version" it came with the bell port work done on the turbine exhaust wheel's passage? Even if he was getting them from Mach5, you would think that he would be loosing money on them, as he is selling them for less $$$.

Maybe they would have an Evo 3 O2 housing gasket lying around so they could snap a pic of it on top of that "Monster" Turbine Housing for me.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

yeah f*ing right, when i saw all that work i said hell no! I got another shopping cart recommended that it looks like we will be using.

 

[1029TSG]

Actually, its $9 more on NS's site. They have $179 for the external version.

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

I was reffering to the $229 MachV is asking for it with the internal 38mm flapper vesion (the only version that Mach5 lists on their website).

The one on NS sells for is $179 + $30 for the 38mm internal gate.

...A $20 difference.


Yours goes for $170 + $50 for the same 38mm internal gate.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

I was reffering to the $229 MachV is asking for it with the internal 38mm flapper vesion (the only version that Mach5 lists on their website).

The one on NS sells for is $179 + $30 for the 38mm internal gate.

...A $20 difference.

some places just choose to mark up a product more.

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

some places just choose to mark up a product more.

Agreed. -This was not my point though...

My response was mostly directed toward David from Bullseye, in regards to his statement about them possibly buying these housings from Mach5.

 

[KPWSerpiente]

BoostedTalonTS, who the #### are you? And what the #### do you really want to know? I have a bullseye turbine housing, and an evo3 o2 housing...and am using the proper evo3 turbine to o2 housing gasket. Do you really wan to see a picture of it? Because if it will shut you up I might pull it apart and snap one.

-T

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Do you really wan to see a picture of it? Because if it will shut you up I might pull it apart and snap one.

-T

I'm sorry but I was laughing out loud at my house with noone around when I read that :laugh:


In all serious you are really harping on something here BoostedTalonTS. Why don't you get to the point. Your confusing everyone by ####y-footing around your real question.

 

[BoostedTalonTS]

BoostedTalonTS, who the #### are you? And what the #### do you really want to know? I have a bullseye turbine housing, and an evo3 o2 housing...and am using the proper evo3 turbine to o2 housing gasket. Do you really wan to see a picture of it? Because if it will shut you up I might pull it apart and snap one.

-T

Who am I? -I'm just a consumer trying to make an educated purchase of a housing that has been met with some conflicting opinions... before I buy, I'd like to know what I'm getting (and who I am getting it from, EXACTLY).

Because if it will shut you up I might pull it apart and snap one.

-T

Sure, if you would do that for me ... Somehow I think that is an empty threat . Plus you should have taken the pics when you were putting it all together in the first place -Really though, what is the "Proper" Evo3 turbine to O2 housing gasket for this turbine housing? I ask, as I had previously ordered a "Monster" turbine housing O2 gasket, and it did not even come close to properly mating up with an EVO3 O2 housing flange (the divider was about 2 mm off from mating up with the divider that separates the WG passage from the turbine exhaust section when laid on the Evo3 O2 housing, not to mention the significant differences in the WG passage. I wonder how the EVO3 7cm O2 housing gasket fits his turbine housing, as the WG port is obviously a different size.

I'm not out to start any sh*t, I was simply trying to research a product before making a purchase... It seems like I can't even get a pic from the guy! I would think that for someone who has been in the DSM community for as long as David has, I would expect him to have a whole f*ing garage full of misc DSM parts/gaskets... Heck, he has worked for at least 5 different DSM specialty shops over the past 4-5 years (according to himself anyway)... I don't think that what I was asking is unreasonable for someone with this kind of background... Is it?

I asked him a few questions in an email about NS Fab's (as I saw that they were offering the same product) and I was just looking for some clarification on it as I was debating if I was just going to revamp my Evo16G or replace it.



>>> GEEEZE! <<<

 

[nazthug]

You say your boost is dropping from 20psi to 15psi? It doesn't really look that way from the dyno graph. Do you have a graph with Torque, that way it's easier to tell what the boost is really doing. That seems to be similiar power we had a customer making on a 57 trim, which according to Bullseye power should make less than the V trim at 19psi. BTW both of the cars had similiar mods.

now that you mention it, my cheap boost gauge must be wrong, and the dsmlink right, because look at my torque, it leads me to believe im loosinng boost towards redline

since its falling, my boost is probably falling off, it spikes to about 19-20 and then quickly back to about 18 but from there, my boost gauge shows no difference, yet dsmlink says it falls to about 16psi

With my new defi gauge i should get better results...that and im waiting on my methanol/water injection kit anyways

from there, its 22psi on pump gas all day long baby, hoping for 350whp with ambient temp intake temperatures

 

[16gkid]

Why not run straight methanol? Two of my friends made their own kit and run straight methanol. One runs 30-32psi on a gt35r all day and one runs 26-28psi on a 3052 all day. Plus you can pick up a 55g barrel of methanol for about 150-170 dollars a lot cheaper compared to c16 or any form of racegas.

 

[nazthug]

i need the water part of it to actually cool the air charge

water cools much better then methanol, methanol is more for actual HP gain, because its higher octane then pump gas

thats why mixing 50/50 works great for hot days, plus, im not looking for huge gains, just a reliable, safe way to run 22psi on pump gas all day long, regardless of weather

I am excited because last summer, with 110* weather the poor car doesnt even move...with water/meth injection, my intake temps will be cooler then outside temps, ....its gonna be great

 

[Stapl3]

Do you have any idea how many companies use OSCommerce for their website and shopping cart? Its a great program and best of all its free. They definitely borrowed some pictures from our website. I'm quite positive that we are not this company nor do we make any O2 elbows.

You skipped the link part. Why is there a link to bullseye on their site?

I find it so weird that company has the same layout as you, sells the same stuff as you, has a link to bullseye-power homepage on their site, and you have never heard of them.

Someone make some sense of it please.

 

[1029TSG]

I'm sure we have several customers I dont know about, there are 9 people that work directly for Bullseye Power. If they faxed in their business information and we approved them they resell our product. I have never referred to our housing as "the monster turbine housing" so its likely a Mach V deal. Why do you care anyway? Do you want to buy from them?

 

[sweet97]

50 trim: Primarily used in the Garrett TA34 drop-in for the Cummins Diesel 6BT model.

60 trim: Mostly used in Ford 7.8L Diesel Brazilian-built six-cylinder engines.

60-1: Original use was in the TC44 (basically a large T04B) unit, on Detroit Diesel 8.2L V-8 engines for truck and marine applications. Oddly, the O.E. choice for Bentley Mulsanne S passenger car as well.

What's the difference between a 60 trim and a 60-1?
Mark

 

[definitiveno]

the wheels I believe. The 60-1 is much more efficient.......or do i have that back wards