balance shaft removal?

[99eclipse420]

Im trying to install a new oil pump and I can not get the balance shaft gear off to completely take the oil pump off, I have searched and look in my repair manuals, nothing.

 

[92AWDHX40]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/352098-balance-shaft-elimination.html


this may help not sure about the 420a.

 

[fonzi90Tsi]

I thought spyders had the 4g64?

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/352098-balance-shaft-elimination.html


this may help not sure about the 420a.

The N/T Spyders don't have a 420A, they have a 46G4. Also, he is not thrying to install a BSE, he's just trying to get the gear off.

When removing that gear, I got lucky, mine slid right off. You can try gently prying with a small pry bar or screwdriver to get it off. If you are having trouble removing the bolt, there is a hole in the side of the block that will allow you to insert a special tool (a screwdriver will work as well) to hold the balance shaft in place while you break the bolt loose.

 

[99eclipse420]

The spyders do have the 4g64, and the 420a doesn't have balance shafts. Also the timing and balance shaft belts are already off.

what hole are you referring too?

 

[1gAWDlaser]

Not sure if you took the oil pan off or not. You will not be able to remove the front cover/oil pump without removing the oil strainer but first remover the oil pan. I tried to pry mine on on my first build about 6 years ago and cracked the oil pump. Hope this can help

 

[WES_393]

Oreilly's has a pulley puller (that's the real name) for pretty cheap for loan. Otherwise use some PB blaster and a long screw driver.

 

[99eclipse420]

Everything is off, I cant find a way to get the balance shaft bolt off so i can completely remove the oil pump.

 

[WES_393]

^ Ah, I see what you mean. Wedge a long screw driver between the balance shaft and block. The balance shaft weight should pinch it against the block so you can turn the nut.

 

[99eclipse420]

There is no room to do that, there is a small lip that comes off the oil pump and surrounds the balance shaft gear.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Oh, I was thinking the rear shaft in my last post.

Get a vice grip on there and as you turn the bolt/shaft it will get wedged against the side of the front case and the bolt will break loose.

 

[tonyseagle]

I used an air wrench....didn't even need to use a pry bar. If that doesn't work pry it against a tooth on the gear and the ground. Good luck!

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

put the belt and tensioner back on and tighten it so it won't turn.

 

[1gAWDlaser]

Have you tried to crack it loose with the Mini balance belt on? I would try to put the little belt on and hit with a little heat

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

put the belt and tensioner back on and tighten it so it won't turn.

I tried this when removing mine, it just broke the belt.

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

I tried this when removing mine, it just broke the belt.

done this several times with great success. Your belt must of been old. Lol j/k

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

done this several times with great success. Your belt must of been old. Lol j/k

It was indeed an older belt. It would have needed to be replaced anyways if I hadn't removed my balance shafts.

 

[miguelmcv]

I removed mine with both balance shaft on.
Just take off all the bolts from the front case and hit the case with a plastic hammer, just a bit so it brake loose, after that is easy to get it off.

You need to bring the engine way down to removed the case with the balance shafts attached.

Edit,
I just saw the pic you posted and there still one bolt on it, right under the tensioner arm, get it off, that's your issue.

 

[FLASH1970]

done this several times with great success. Your belt must of been old. Lol j/k

It was indeed an older belt. It would have needed to be replaced anyways if I hadn't removed my balance shafts.

I just did this on my 99. I tried getting a screwdriver to keep the gear from turning but had no luck. I put the balance shaft belt back on and broke the old one... So I put the new balance shaft belt from the timing belt kit on and it held. I put a breaker bar/socket on the crank bolt and rotated it so it'd be up against the lower control arm. If you have air tools, get an impact and take the bolt out. I had a ratchet and a piece of pipe and just gave it a quick tug.

 

[1gAWDlaser]

I removed mine with both balance shaft on.
Just take off all the bolts from the front case and hit the case with a plastic hammer, just a bit so it brake loose, after that is easy to get it off.

You need to bring the engine way down to removed the case with the balance shafts attached.

Edit,
I just saw the pic you posted and there still one bolt on it, right under the tensioner arm, get it off, that's your issue.

This actually works. I have done this one time on mine. You must remove the engine mounts on front and rear and you already have the driver side mount off. Use a block of wood on top of a jack while you lower the engine so that you don't damage anything important. With the engine lower you should just barely clear the frame of the fender well.