AWD auto- AWD man

[wickedz]

Well I will be picking up my 98 TSi AWD talon in a month. It is a automatic, and I would like to have a manual. Anyway someone can get me a write up or detail list of things needed for the swap. Im really scared to see a labor install cost, if I can even find someone to do it, or help. Im sure I will have to rock the automatic for a year, until financial situation is better. Any help would be BEYOND wonderful

 

[nek]

I dont know much about the details of the swap but I heard the change isnt worth it. They say it usually just comes out to be a pain and its smarter to just buy a m awd.

 

[4g63eagle]

You should really try to search before starting a new thread, It took me 0.01 seconds to find this.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-drivetrain/266084-complete-awd-auto-5speed-conversion.html

 

[xhackerekx]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-drivetrain/152632-awd-automatic-manual-swap.html

 

[wickedz]

I found the search after the posting, PLUS im a noob. I also found that at the bottom of the thread, it gives related topics, in which I found exactly what I was looking for.

 

[4g63eagle]

I found the search after the posting, PLUS im a noob. I also found that at the bottom of the thread, it gives related topics, in which I found exactly what I was looking for.

Thats cool, I was just saying to search under the VFAQ section under the tech tab its a world of info for you and all DSM owners. I know i learn something new everyday about my ride good luck man.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

If I had an automatic DSM I would get one of those push button shift boxes and wire it up to a set of those flappy paddle shifters on the steering wheel or column. Autos are faster anyway, so you would have the best of both worlds without all the heavy lifting and dirtywork.

 

[wickedz]

ok noob question, seens how im on a roll of failure tonite . How can you launch a auto? Do you have to hold the break and trottle it, then let off break or what? Im just saying in case I wanna play on the road now and again. hate to say I have a AWD turbo talon, and it loses to everything on the road

 

[4g63eagle]

ok noob question, seens how im on a roll of failure tonite . How can you launch a auto? Do you have to hold the break and trottle it, then let off break or what? Im just saying in case I wanna play on the road now and again. hate to say I have a AWD turbo talon, and it loses to everything on the road

Thats how i launch, Hold the brake on get the rpm's up, Off you go i have a auto also

 

[wickedz]

If I had an automatic DSM I would get one of those push button shift boxes and wire it up to a set of those flappy paddle shifters on the steering wheel or column. Autos are faster anyway, so you would have the best of both worlds without all the heavy lifting and getting dirty.

What? Are you kiding me? Then tell me WHY my car is slow as balls. I had the car in WOT with camera on speed cluster, and I struggled to get up to say 50 mph.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/357188-98-tsi-awd-video-help.html

Thats how i launch, Hold the brake on get the rpm's up, Off you go i have a auto also

Im so scared to spin a bearing or something

 

[Colt4G63 also]

Do you have to hold the break and trottle it, then let off break or what?

Yes that's all you have to do. They'll build boost, and when you let off the brake, they go like a bat out of hell. You can get the torque converter loosened up by a transmission shop if you aren't getting enough RPM prior to launching. They shift faster than any manual ever could, that's why the fastest drag cars in the world are generally all auto, or at least some kind of constantly meshed gearbox. Nothing with syncros or clutch pedals.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

What? Are you kiding me? Then tell me WHY my car is slow as balls. I had the car in WOT with camera on speed cluster, and I struggled to get up to say 50 mph.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/357188-98-tsi-awd-video-help.html

Yeah I saw your videos the other day. Believe me, it's not slow by design. There's something else wrong. If you want me to tell you specifically why it's slow as balls, you can bring it to my shop. Other than that, you can let these guys figure it out online. They're pretty good if you can bring enough pertinent information. I don't have the patience for long distance diagnostics.

 

[wickedz]

Yeah I saw your videos the other day. Believe me, it's not slow by design. There's something else wrong. If you want me to tell you specifically why it's slow as balls, you can bring it to my shop. Other than that, you can let these guys figure it out online. They're pretty good if you can bring enough pertinent information. I don't have the patience for long distance diagnostics.

Im heading up to Michigan next month, and would love to take the talon with me. We dont have snow in FL so what fun of AWD in FL . Anyway if I knew it would make it 100% to NY, I would in a heart beat, as long as someone knew exactly what was wrong. But Mr. Paul Walker himself got ahold of my talon, and modified the shit out of it, but did it all wrong . fast and furious it is not. Now im playing trace the VAC lines, look for leaks, ect. The turbo is poorly welded to the J-pipe (dont ask me why ).

 

[Colt4G63 also]

no like A/T this is just for woman.

I'll just assume english is your second language.

Hey look at this girl doing 155 mph in 8.9 seconds through a DSM auto.


YouTube - Jeff Bush Team English Racing/ ETS Goes 8.9@155 on E85 through a DSM Auto

Guess he must be at home changing his transmission now huh?

 

[mainerdsm]

NO please save that car from its ricer life style. FIrst get rid of the white interior. Than get a 1g bov of a greddy and turbo xs bov your first problem is the bov is no being recirculated. Am I the only one that noticed that in the video. #2 Thats a 6 bolt Ill give it that.

 

[wickedz]

NO please save that car from its ricer life style. FIrst get rid of the white interior. Than get a 1g bov of a greddy and turbo xs bov your first problem is the bov is no being recirculated. Am I the only one that noticed that in the video. #2 Thats a 6 bolt Ill give it that.

who are you talking to? I have heard from several people automatic it dont matter if its recirc, or not. The car has no stalling issues or anything like that.

Also how do you know its a 6 bolt ? And white interior? its black and leather . It has a dash kit or some shit on it

 

[tunethis]

who are you talking to? I have heard from several people automatic it dont matter if its recirc, or not. The car has no stalling issues or anything like that.

Also how do you know its a 6 bolt ? And white interior? its black and leather . It has a dash kit or some shit on it

Recirculating the bov on a DSM is the correct way if it still has the factory mass air flow sensor. It doesn't matter what transmission it has. However, the effects of a non-recirculated bov is typically more noticible with a 5spd car.

 

[2gGSX]

Ship the car to/from Missouri and I will put my manual trans setup in your car

 

[vinnio]

keep the auto while you get the car fixed of other issues. Drive it, Then make your decision.

Dont rush things ya know? How long have you had the car?

 

[mainerdsm]

who are you talking to? I have heard from several people automatic it dont matter if its recirc, or not. The car has no stalling issues or anything like that.

Also how do you know its a 6 bolt ? And white interior? its black and leather . It has a dash kit or some shit on it

Don't be fooled that's not a dash kit it looks like a the guy you got it from took a can of white plastic spray paint to some interior piece's and it's a 6 bolt because it has a cam sensor on the valve cover on the left side in the photo (passenger side of the car) right next to that little filter. And not recirculating it is a bad idea. IN my opinion doesn't matter if its an automatic or not. WHen you let off the gas to stop your cars gonna run extremely rich for 10 20 seconds and thats not good.

 

[1999silverGSX]

I had a 99 GSX A/T. When i first got it, i didnt know shit about recirc or what it even meant. I went out and bought the TurboXS RFL bov. After wondering why when i punched it my car would break up above 5k rpms, i searched on here and found out that a BOV vented is a BAD idea no matter what trans you have in your car. I put the stock bov back on and my break-up issues were fixed

 

[wickedz]

Don't be fooled that's not a dash kit it looks like a the guy you got it from took a can of white plastic spray paint to some interior piece's and it's a 6 bolt because it has a cam sensor on the valve cover on the left side in the photo (passenger side of the car) right next to that little filter. And not recirculating it is a bad idea. IN my opinion doesn't matter if its an automatic or not. WHen you let off the gas to stop your cars gonna run extremely rich for 10 20 seconds and thats not good.

Well none of the interior is painted or changed in any way, other then the silver dash kit suround.

My plans are to:
get a GM maf and maft
All new Hard pipe w/new couplers
upgrade to T bolt clamps
Maybe new turbo if that is bad
Timing ket replacment (@98,000 now)
Tranny cable is stretched? Have to play with it to get it in year or else it free rev
Remove horrid wing from previous owner
Remove Dash trim pieces
Get a new MBC and install correct (not inside car )
Tune up. (I seriously think previous owner never changed plugs or wires

I seriously hope I do have 6 bolt motor, but im still doubting you. Maybe I have a 1g head with the CAS?I will google the differance. God the previous owner really ####ed up this car as far as mods go.

google image the difference between 6 bolt and 7 bolt, and they both show the CAS. Maybe im missing what your actually saying. sorry

 

[TSimage]

Don't be fooled that's not a dash kit it looks like a the guy you got it from took a can of white plastic spray paint to some interior piece's and it's a 6 bolt because it has a cam sensor on the valve cover on the left side in the photo (passenger side of the car) right next to that little filter. And not recirculating it is a bad idea. IN my opinion doesn't matter if its an automatic or not. WHen you let off the gas to stop your cars gonna run extremely rich for 10 20 seconds and thats not good.

That doesn't mean its a 6 bolt, that simply means it has a 1g head which is probably all. I highly doubt that is an Auto 2g with a 6bolt swap with the modifications to run a 2g Tranny and is that stock.

 

[JuGs]

I agree just because theres a 1g cas dont mean its a 6 bolt also dont mean its a 6 bolt head. I have a 1g cas on my car and I have a complete 7 bolt motor. The 97 to 99 heads are capable to put a 1g cas if its actuly wired up you can have better timing than the stock cas. Im not saying it is or not cant tell without seeing it in person. Automatic are no fun Ill give you that but as said it has like a .3 sec shift compaired to 1.4. I know the numbers are wrong its just a example. Ill see what goin on this week and maybe Ill swing you way and we can check out the car. If indeed its a 6 bolt( head at least) and it has a 2g exhaust mani theres part of your issue for power loss.

 

[wickedz]

I am hoping to see you actually. It would be cool to spend a good amount of time of actually looking it over, hearing it run, ect.