Anyone's Dejon smim not fit?

[staticbrainwash]

HAHA, what did you do to your dejon exhaust tstkl? Mine had zero problems getting hung.

 

[tstkl]

all I have to say is, if you point the middle clamp downwards,... well its not a good idea, the sounds should have given it away though, I knew something was wrong....

 

[staticbrainwash]

HAHA, nice!

 

[92awd6bolt]

how can a intake that has rubber fittings, fit wrong?

 

[tstkl]

how can a intake that has rubber fittings, fit wrong?

that would be because you don't know what a smim is. we aren't talking about intake pipes here


Sheet Metal Intake Manifold - smim

no rubber here...

 

[92tsifwd]

I found out that I need the 86-93 mustang tb for anyone that needs to know.

 

[staticbrainwash]

i think jeep TB's will work too. Don't quote me on it though, but i remember seeing it on here somewhere.

 

[Newlogics]

DejonTool has always made stuff that required a little modification every now and then, but I think it's well reflected in their pricing. A while back, they used a very thin steel for flanges on their UICP, and it caused some headaches, but it was taken care off, and now much better flanges are used. I think the same is in store for the SMIM. It'a fairly new product, and will take a little more time to work out things like required flange thickness and such.
To be honest, Magnus has it's broblems too (with welds cracking and such). Stuff like that happens.

 

[92awddsm]

My opinion of dejon is 50/50. I love the 3" intake pipe I have but I have repaired many, many uicp flanges from them. The main problem I have found is not the fact that the flange is thin. It is because the flange is welded on the inside then machined flat. This exposes all the pors in the weld and crates a leak between the pipe and flange. I have had to reweld at least 10 on the outside of the flange to fix the problem.

As far as the smim, you get what you pay for. I have yet to understand why anyone pays $400+ for their steel smim when for a little more, you can get a jm manifold made of aluminum, 100% better quality, and has been proven to perform aas well as a magnus.

To clear the air, Im not bashind dejon, I am just stating the facts.

 

[Slippi84]

I finally got my pictures of my engine up in my profile everyone should go take a look I have pictures of the dejon tool smim installed. They seem to fit pretty good to me

 

[tstkl]

1, you had your engine out, so that must have made it 1000 times easier, but this is the case with every smim im sure.

2, obviously they are going to make some smim's that work, its dejon tool, not HUUUNDAS-R-FAST.com, so I'm not surprised that some worked, Im surprised some don't...

 

[92awddsm]

I finally got my pictures of my engine up in my profile everyone should go take a look I have pictures of the dejon tool smim installed. They seem to fit pretty good to me

Not knocking you, but why did you cut so many corners? ssautochrome, dejon smim, knockoff tial, f1 flywheel, and doing it with a gt-14 turbo? If you had save just a little more, you could have had a solid, proven, reliable setup. Now, you will probably end up replacing some of the parts I mentioned and wished you hadnt cut corner after it is all said and done.

And the prblem with the dejon smim stated had nothing to do with ease of installation, it was all about bolt hole location on the manifold flange. Any engine part will be easier to install with the engine out.

 

[Slippi84]

Not knocking you, but why did you cut so many corners? ssautochrome, dejon smim, knockoff tial, f1 flywheel, and doing it with a gt-14 turbo? If you had save just a little more, you could have had a solid, proven, reliable setup. Now, you will probably end up replacing some of the parts I mentioned and wished you hadnt cut corner after it is all said and done.

And the prblem with the dejon smim stated had nothing to do with ease of installation, it was all about bolt hole location on the manifold flange. Any engine part will be easier to install with the engine out.

WHat you call cuttin corners I call saving money. I knew someone would come on and say something about ssautochrome as it is the norm for guys that haven't tried the parts. I won't lie more people have bad experiences with XSpower than with other companies but trust me more people have good experiences than people have bad experiences. It's just the pictures like the one with the honda header that snapped right at the collector which everyone has seen has everyone thinkin oh everything xspower makes is crap. If you want to come over and check out this exhaust manifold out and put it on your car and see what happens I will give you my address and you can check it out. I have friends with dnp parts and i'll tell you that the diffrence is no 200-300 dollar diffrence. As for the tail knock off it is the exact same thing the only diffrence is that the clamp is steel and not aluminum like tial. It is no plastic or cheap metal POS. As a matter of fact out of all the parts I have I'm the most worried about the dejon tool smim, because I have heard of people saying they had good experiences with xspower stuff and I know the BOV will be great but I saw the intake manifold test that they did a while back and was not happy with the outcome. I have it now and it's to late as I already tried to sell it but I will find out for myself and others if the outcome is the same as that test. Give me a month or so and I will either have the numbers and times to show you and everyon else that these parts work or I won't simple as that

 

[92awddsm]

WHat you call cuttin corners I call saving money. I knew someone would come on and say something about ssautochrome as it is the norm for guys that haven't tried the parts. I won't lie more people have bad experiences with XSpower than with other companies but trust me more people have good experiences than people have bad experiences. It's just the pictures like the one with the honda header that snapped right at the collector which everyone has seen has everyone thinkin oh everything xspower makes is crap. If you want to come over and check out this exhaust manifold out and put it on your car and see what happens I will give you my address and you can check it out. I have friends with dnp parts and i'll tell you that the diffrence is no 200-300 dollar diffrence. As for the tail knock off it is the exact same thing the only diffrence is that the clamp is steel and not aluminum like tial. It is no plastic or cheap metal POS. As a matter of fact out of all the parts I have I'm the most worried about the dejon tool smim, because I have heard of people saying they had good experiences with xspower stuff and I know the BOV will be great but I saw the intake manifold test that they did a while back and was not happy with the outcome. I have it now and it's to late as I already tried to sell it but I will find out for myself and others if the outcome is the same as that test. Give me a month or so and I will either have the numbers and times to show you and everyon else that these parts work or I won't simple as that

I have tried the exhaust manifold. I rewelded a couple of cracks and decided to wrap it afterwards to cover up the crappy look of the welds, Well, evedentlythe wrap worked and held more of the heat in. This excessive heat basically made the manifod crumble to nothing in less than a month. I know this is off topic but still informative to an extent.

 

[Slippi84]

I have tried the exhaust manifold. I rewelded a couple of cracks and decided to wrap it afterwards to cover up the crappy look of the welds, Well, evedentlythe wrap worked and held more of the heat in. This excessive heat basically made the manifod crumble to nothing in less than a month. I know this is off topic but still informative to an extent.

Was it before or after they changed the design. It used to not have brackets and the welds used to be sub par. They have since like many other companies caught crap and have fixed the problems to make a better product. Think about it this very thread proves that no one is above people saying shit is wrong with their product. Dejon tool one of the big dsm companies smim is considered sub par for fittment and small flange reasons. I even heard people saying magnus smim have bad welds and blow sometimes. I have neevr seen any of these problems but other people have. The point is peopel assosiate bad experiences with a companies overall dependability. I don't doubt you had problems but I don't think every single xspower manifold is crap if it was they would never be able to get by with a name change or not.

 

[92tsifwd]

Ya, I agree about saving money someone said, I really did not see the point in going with a shinny top magnus for the simple fact that it is way over priced? Why spend $700 on a intake? For another $500 you could get a garrett t67 that would make alot more power. Why not go with a magnus? Well why not make one? Magnus is not top line, far from it actualy. Dejon tool's intake manifold I was disapointed with flow test but, of course we have no dyno numbers to compare on all the intake manifolds so, we will probably never know will we, which is the best. I know one thing we live and we learn and if I am as disapointed with the power as I am with the installation I will get rid of it and probably make one for half the money. With enouph research and nolage on intake's and futcher plans for the car you can make one that will perform with your own personal setup and that is what really matters.

 

[Slippi84]

Ya, I agree about saving money someone said, I really did not see the point in going with a shinny top magnus for the simple fact that it is way over priced? Why spend $700 on a intake? For another $500 you could get a garrett t67 that would make alot more power. Why not go with a magnus? Well why not make one? Magnus is not top line, far from it actualy. Dejon tool's intake manifold I was disapointed with flow test but, of course we have no dyno numbers to compare on all the intake manifolds so, we will probably never know will we, which is the best. I know one thing we live and we learn and if I am as disapointed with the power as I am with the installation I will get rid of it and probably make one for half the money. With enouph research and nolage on intake's and futcher plans for the car you can make one that will perform with your own personal setup and that is what really matters.

No to be honest if it sux i'll buy a magnus. I like saving money but my moms didn't raise a fool.

 

[Turbo Monk3y]

I like how the Dejon Looks and their Options to have the Coil/ignitor brackets installed... I Personally bought the JM Fabricatons SMIM but I have yet to put it on.... I think this will really help me reach a 10 sec ET with 130+mph trap speeds... I'm doing 125-126mph consistently with the stock 1g manifold and 26-27psi I think the Jm with 30psi will give me what im looking for. Only reason why i went with the JM over the Dejon is because it was only 40 dollars more and Their Gains they post on their website are True. Even Jakes- Evil_Eagles car was mentioned on the site and hes a regular here on the forums.. His trap speeds are Crazy!!!

 

[Slippi84]

I like how the Dejon Looks and their Options to have the Coil/ignitor brackets installed... I Personally bought the JM Fabricatons SMIM but I have yet to put it on.... I think this will really help me reach a 10 sec ET with 130+mph trap speeds... I'm doing 125-126mph consistently with the stock 1g manifold and 26-27psi I think the Jm with 30psi will give me what im looking for. Only reason why i went with the JM over the Dejon is because it was only 40 dollars more and Their Gains they post on their website are True. Even Jakes- Evil_Eagles car was mentioned on the site and hes a regular here on the forums.. His trap speeds are Crazy!!!

I def agree as evil eagle has a sick car. JM smim's def look nice and I wouldn'tmind rockin one of those but I got my dejon for 300 bucs from a friend. I can't say I blame him after hearing about the smim but I still think it will do good enough for me to reach my 10 sec ET's too

 

[92tsifwd]

Let me know how it preforms when you get it on because, it may be a month or two before I will get my car done. If anyone has ever dynoed it and the others that would be cool to know.

 

[Slippi84]

Yeah I will def have dyno numbers in the very near future. I have to break my motor in so there will be a ####y footing period which sux but better than buying a new motor. This car isn't a babied race every blue moon car it will see regular action probably every weekend. So there should be plenty of info and data for everyon to analise and break down

 

[92tsifwd]

Sounds good, keep us posted on your resalts slippi84 and your intake has the pcv fitting on top and mine just has 3 fittings on the bottom which means a longer pcv hose which I have to furnish. Must have changed the design from crappy to more crappy.

 

[staticbrainwash]

Actually (it was an old post above) but if you look through the 3si stuff the knockoff tial and greddy bov's are just as good as the real things. Just no fancy markings or name brands.