any input on this setup please

[IrshFF]

Currently running :

2g GS-T with 16g @ 12 psi

Soon to come ( in order ) :

VRspeed FMIC with Gm maf

550cc injectors

walboro fuel pump



Game plan :

Install all above and up boost to 19psi


Questions:

with the fmic it has the option to add a 3" or 3.5". which do i get? does the gm maf just wired to where your stock mas usually is? so i would disconnect my stock mas and wire the gm maf in instead?

also, is a gm maf translator REQUIRED?

What fuel pump? 255 or 190l?

the fmic with gm maf will be installed about 2 weeks before i get the injectors and fuel pump. will that be a problem?

after injectors, fuel pump, and fmic /w gm maf are installed, what actions will i need to take tuning wise?

i saw the 2gen maf translator on dsmgraveyard for $250 that said had afr tuning abilities and acted as a logger as well. would that be a good buy?

im looking for the best option for a good price but will still allow me to tear up the street

most of all, this is my daily driver and each one of those upgrades listed are going to be about 2 weeks apart from each other, will i have a problem driving it in between upgrades?

Intake question.

once i get the gm maf. is the mas where its connected at the box ( between the filter and piping that goes to the turbo) needed? or can i just take that whole box out and get an intake that has metal piping strait from the turbo to the filter? any suggestions on a good intake too?


i tried to include color this time so my post's werent so boring.

thanks for all the help. you guys rock!

 

[snowborder714]

with the fmic it has the option to add a 3" or 3.5". which do i get? does the gm maf just wired to where your stock mas usually is? so i would disconnect my stock mas and wire the gm maf in instead?

Get the 3" GM MAF. That is what 99.9% of people run.

You need a MAF Translator to use it. The translator has 2 plugs on it - one goes into the GM MAF and the other connects to the stock MAF plug.

also, is a gm maf translator REQUIRED?

Yes.

What fuel pump? 255 or 190l?

If you never want to upgrade again, the 255lph. If you possibly want to upgrade (depends on your goals), the 190lph. I'd say get the 255lph, but I don't like doing things twice.

If you get a 255lph pump, you'll need to get an AFPR as you'll overrun the stock FPR. Aeromotive or Fuelab are good companies for AFPR's.

the fmic with gm maf will be installed about 2 weeks before i get the injectors and fuel pump. will that be a problem?

Nope.

after injectors, fuel pump, and fmic /w gm maf are installed, what actions will i need to take tuning wise?

You need to get a logger and tuner. I would not use the MAF Translator as a tuning device if at all possible. It's one of the worse tuning options out there. Either go cheap and get an S-AFC (max injector size for an S-AFC is 660cc) or look into the Ceddy mod (uses EvoScan and ECUflash). Ceddy mod is probably your best option as it has the most flexibility.

i saw the 2gen maf translator on dsmgraveyard for $250 that said had afr tuning abilities and acted as a logger as well. would that be a good buy?

I'd say no just because I haven't heard of too many people having luck using a MAF Translator to tune. But I have not used that model myself, so I don't have hands on experience.

most of all, this is my daily driver and each one of those upgrades listed are going to be about 2 weeks apart from each other, will i have a problem driving it in between upgrades?

Nope. But I'd say to install the pump before the injectors (or ideally at the same time). The injectors will take you about a half hour tops to install, the pump maybe another half hour. The FMIC will be the big project.

All that needs to be done is having a tuning device installed before the injectors. The MAF Translator will do for injector compensation.

Intake question.

once i get the gm maf. is the mas where its connected at the box ( between the filter and piping that goes to the turbo) needed? or can i just take that whole box out and get an intake that has metal piping strait from the turbo to the filter? any suggestions on a good intake too?

You can remove the stock MAS. Either look into FP or Dejon Tool for intakes that don't bolt up to the stock MAS.

 

[IrshFF]

okay, first of all, you rock man, most understanding progress ive ever made off one post.

Questions:

Ill get the 3" gm maf, what maft should i get with that? the basic $200 one from dsmgraveyard?

and when you say it connects to the stock maf plug? do you mean the plug that box in your stock intake connects to?

im going to go with the s-afc + logger because i probably wont ever upgrade past 660cc injectors. is there then one kind of s-afc? if so which should i get? what logger should i get with s-afc?

when i replace the intercooler system with the new gm maf and translator should i aim to replace the intake then at the same time to take the stock one out of the equation?

Best order?:

Intercooler system + gm maf + mafT + new intake.

s-afc + logger

AFPR + injectors + fuel pump


that look like the correct order probably for going about this whole thing?

should i tune as soon as install the s-afc, then again after the fuel system stuff? or just wait till after fuel stuff ( which will be 2 weeks later )?

finally, how would the logger + s-afc combo work? just take the info in the logger and tune according to that with the s-afc?

how do would i read the logger?

is the s-afc + logger tuning option easy to learn for a newb ( like me : D ) with a little time and research?

 

[snowborder714]

Ill get the 3" gm maf, what maft should i get with that? the basic $200 one from dsmgraveyard?

I'd say the basic one will work just fine as long as you aren't going to try and use it to tune.

and when you say it connects to the stock maf plug? do you mean the plug that box in your stock intake connects to?

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The two plugs on there - the small one plugs into a receptacle on the GM MAF and the bigger one connects to the stock MAS plug (from the harness - the part that has wires connecting to it).

im going to go with the s-afc + logger because i probably wont ever upgrade past 660cc injectors. is there then one kind of s-afc? if so which should i get? what logger should i get with s-afc?

Don't rule out other tuning systems just because you won't go with larger injectors. You need to do some research on the Ceddy mod and see what all it can do.

There are a few different S-AFC's - S-AFC I, S-AFC II, and S-AFC Neo I believe are all of them. I listed them in order of oldest to newest, but that doesn't mean one is better. I believe the II is the most popular.

If you go the S-AFC route, you can still use (I believe) EvoScan to log.

when i replace the intercooler system with the new gm maf and translator should i aim to replace the intake then at the same time to take the stock one out of the equation?

Yes, that is the best approach. If you can't because of money reasons though, it's not a big deal. It won't hurt you to run the stock intake with the stock MAS connected.

Best order?:

Intercooler system + gm maf + mafT + new intake.

s-afc + logger

AFPR + injectors + fuel pump

Yep.

should i tune as soon as install the s-afc, then again after the fuel system stuff? or just wait till after fuel stuff ( which will be 2 weeks later )?

Wait until after the fuel stuff.

finally, how would the logger + s-afc combo work? just take the info in the logger and tune according to that with the s-afc?

how do would i read the logger?

is the s-afc + logger tuning option easy to learn for a newb ( like me : D ) with a little time and research?

Yes, that's the basic gist of how to use the S-AFC/logger combo. It won't be hard to learn as long as you read about it first.

As for how to read the logger, it all depends on which one you get. If you go the EvoScan route, it'll be read from a laptop.

Please do some research on the different 2g tuning/logging solutions before jumping to a conclusion though.

 

[IrshFF]

i will do plenty more research before deciding on a tuning option. trust me, i just jumped to the s-afc because i have heard a lot about it, and it seems popular. i would really prefer to not need a lap top for tuning if it can at all be avoided, is there anyway to tune without a laptop? i just really dont wanna have to buy a laptop. like with the s-afc, that's like a controller itself right? it has buttons for tuning on it? so i would just need a logger that i can maybe read without a laptop? but if it really comes down to it, ANY laptop would work right? i could just get a cheap lil $300 dell?

 

[snowborder714]

Some loggers use a Palm, but you'll have to look into it.

Yes, any laptop will work.

Yes, the S-AFC doesn't require a laptop to use. The buttons on the unit are how you change settings.