Any DSM meets in San Diego

[GSX_TC1]

Gotta love them fat chicks =)

 

[OgamiGST]

Hell no! I don't see myself doing it but you never know....there are always fat chicks willing to pay though...

Maybe if I was in Jason's shoes but other than that don't think so.

Btw Jason I'll be needing that ride soon

Will do man ...Saturday ??

 

[agarc023]

Haha i'll shoot you a text tomorrow

Actually thatd be later today

 

[donaldseclipse]

ogamigst my brother is selling his s15 because of the law, a friend of his got his car crushed and he got a big fine for his japan right hand drive s15, reason being that the only way to get the cars here is to do it illegally.... only trouble you might run into is ref ticket for that engine but you can always make payments of $10 sock it to the big guys

 

[OgamiGST]

ogamigst my brother is selling his s15 because of the law, a friend of his got his car crushed and he got a big fine for his japan right hand drive s15, reason being that the only way to get the cars here is to do it illegally.... only trouble you might run into is ref ticket for that engine but you can always make payments of $10 sock it to the big guys

yeah I'm just glad they can't take her away from me AZ all the way

 

[andrewrnava]

I'm keeping mine for now haha

 

[gufi]

... you should see if someone will trade you their stock EVO for your built DSM it might work out like it did for me. Your is waaay more built than mine was

i would absoulutly love this . I would even throw cash their way.

 

[andrewrnava]

Jason where did you put it up for trade Craigalist?

 

[OgamiGST]

i would absoulutly love this . I would even throw cash their way.

All I would do is comb Craigslist from SD to L.A. and offer every single one of them a trade.

Jason where did you put it up for trade Craigalist?

Yeah for like a second ...then I called a friend of mine to find a 240sx with a list of requirements from me. Then the rest is history

 

[goodbuds]

I remember when we use to talk about dsms on this site.

 

[agarc023]

 

[OgamiGST]

I remember when we use to talk about dsms on this site.

Yeah how dare we talk about other car interests, kind of why I got rid of mine...no support. Thankfully Jessica doesn't want to put me through a bunch of tuning with her 2g all she wants is around 300hp thankfully that doesn't require much help.

 

[goodbuds]

man, you got butt hurt quick. won't joke around anymore .sorry. because dsm have no support.

 

[OgamiGST]

man, you got butt hurt quick. won't joke around anymore .sorry. because dsm have no support.

Not really butt hurt more like... dis-enchanted with the whole thing... I spent sooo much money on doing stuff to it and I have brought back nothing learned, I could have learned how to do my tunes and upgrades myself having some fellow racers with more knowledge than me actually wanting to hang out drink some beers and teach me as well as others, and have fun. That is what a community is all about and with numbers low in DSM I thought it was a really tight network of friends helping friends going to the track and having fun. I spent the majority of my time asking questions with no resolution and constantly frightened that I was going to blow something up. I like you guys but there was not enough activity to keep me interested and getting a meet to happen is pretty much like going to the dentist ....DSMs are a for profit community and I'm a poor guy with mouths to feed.

 

[gufi]

DSMs are a for profit community.

This much I agree with, unless you search extensively it can be done. there are over 2000 different write-up's on how to do just about every thing on these cars.

tuning 1 car is no different than tuning another so... its a matter of reading and understanding what to look for.

I learned to tune my car from tuning my mustang using a Megasquirt. I read for over 6 months before finally installing it. By doing this i was able to go from a stock ecu, to a custom open source solution for 200 bucks, doing the rewiring my self, building a patch connection to the stock ecu socket and starting the car up on my second attempt ( first time was fail because i forgot to hook up the brake vacuum hose on the back of the plenum ).

there is 1 article on how to install an MS unit on a 4.6 v8 mustang online, it isnt even close to complete but with enough understanding and time I was able to do it my self in 6 hours.


not to rag.... but you relied on others too much to get answers instead of searching for ways to understand what you were doing.

its like on many forums... people will say increase timing 3-4 degree's and some one will add 10-15 degree's with the thought of " if 3-4 added 5 hp... 10-15 will add 15-20". most of us understand this is not the case but he didnt understand what he was doing to his motor on a basic level.

 

[banishedmunk]

Yeah how dare we talk about other car interests, kind of why I got rid of mine...no support. Thankfully Jessica doesn't want to put me through a bunch of tuning with her 2g all she wants is around 300hp thankfully that doesn't require much help.

noted

 

[OgamiGST]

This much I agree with, unless you search extensively it can be done. there are over 2000 different write-up's on how to do just about every thing on these cars.

tuning 1 car is no different than tuning another so... its a matter of reading and understanding what to look for.

I learned to tune my car from tuning my mustang using a Megasquirt. I read for over 6 months before finally installing it. By doing this i was able to go from a stock ecu, to a custom open source solution for 200 bucks, doing the rewiring my self, building a patch connection to the stock ecu socket and starting the car up on my second attempt ( first time was fail because i forgot to hook up the brake vacuum hose on the back of the plenum ).

there is 1 article on how to install an MS unit on a 4.6 v8 mustang online, it isnt even close to complete but with enough understanding and time I was able to do it my self in 6 hours.


not to rag.... but you relied on others too much to get answers instead of searching for ways to understand what you were doing.

its like on many forums... people will say increase timing 3-4 degree's and some one will add 10-15 degree's with the thought of " if 3-4 added 15 hp... 10-15 will add 15-20". most of us understand this is not the case but he didnt understand what he was doing to his motor on a basic level.

True I was raised with race cars being built all around me but I wasn't allowed to be there when things were being built or tuned... I saw how my step dad and his friends were and he told me in order to understand you must have people to help you understand...his friends were over almost all of the time ...and he constantly said that if it weren't for his network of guys that came over all of the time he wouldn't know anything about racing or building or tune.... I am a applied learner I have to do it as I'm told with someone there to say hey don't do that otherwise I just will I'm not stupid but I don't know limitations.

noted

Your the only reason why I stuck around so long ...you and Augustine.

 

[Zefal151]

Well, to me personally, there is a HUGE community in regards to the DSM world. As with anything though, you have to put forth the effort to receive effort.

Im a computer guy, so know minimal things about mechanics, but that doesnt stop me from doing a lot of searching and asking the right questions to understand whats going on. I learn from doing or watching also, but dont need someone looking over my shoulder to tell me what to do and what not to do... I like when i have people helping me, but if i can ask a question over text when ive hit a roadblock, then an answer is good enough for me.

If you want someone to hold your hand while doing things, should have gone elsewhere... DSMers like to help each other without having to do it for you

 

[gufi]

Honestly WoT isn't even the hard part of tuning. cruise and part throttle/throttle transition is by far the most difficult.

at WOT you remove over half of the variables that get looked at during other conditions.

tuning is too opinionated for the facts behind it to show through ( Physics are the key to tuning [ thermodynamic efficiency, heat transfer, mechanical timing per rpm, flame travel speed at (temp/afr/rpm)]) <--- things to think about just for adjusting timing

tuning a car is like listening to a gal whine about her day. it takes forever, the converstation goes back and forth, you get in trouble for opening your mouth, she starts feeling better then screams because shes over it finally. in the end she feels better and you have done your job.

shitty analogy but its all i got

 

[OgamiGST]

Honestly WoT isn't even the hard part of tuning. cruise and part throttle/throttle transition is by far the most difficult.

at WOT you remove over half of the variables that get looked at during other conditions.

tuning is too opinionated for the facts behind it to show through ( Physics are the key to tuning [ thermodynamic efficiency, heat transfer, mechanical timing per rpm, flame travel speed at (temp/afr/rpm)]) <--- things to think about just for adjusting timing

tuning a car is like listening to a gal whine about her day. it takes forever, the converstation goes back and forth, you get in trouble for opening your mouth, she starts feeling better then screams because shes over it finally. in the end she feels better and you have done your job.

shitty analogy but its all i got

ah yes totally true with the tuning... I did sit and actually read a ton of stuff and applied a lot of it. Did the turbo swap the injectors and a whole bunch of other stuff, but it just wasn't very fun doing it alone. So what if I wanted to hang out with people and learn isn't that what having a hobby is all about hanging with friends sharing ideas and going over to there house or them coming over for some beers and cars... I do like to hold hands and have stuff SHOWN to me not done for me, I have asked plenty of times on the forum to hang out and get taught. But it was just kind of pushed away and treated like eh this guy wants free shit or whatever....Kris helped and taught me alot and I value his friendship a bunch but it did make me aware of how we are all not in the same boat, also my wife doesn't even want to get on the forum because she feels like she will just be thought of as another chick that doesn't know anything. This is based off of the lack of comrodery we have. Take a look a zilvia.net and a few other 240/nismo forums they hang out and have car build days no charge just beer and BBQ. So if I'm out casted because of my choice to get a car I've always wanted ...so be it.

Well, to me personally, there is a HUGE community in regards to the DSM world. As with anything though, you have to put forth the effort to receive effort.

Im a computer guy, so know minimal things about mechanics, but that doesnt stop me from doing a lot of searching and asking the right questions to understand whats going on. I learn from doing or watching also, but dont need someone looking over my shoulder to tell me what to do and what not to do... I like when i have people helping me, but if i can ask a question over text when ive hit a roadblock, then an answer is good enough for me.

If you want someone to hold your hand while doing things, should have gone elsewhere... DSMers like to help each other without having to do it for you

Pretty rude ...but ok, it's instances like these that show what people are really like. Awesome, you are saying go somewhere else if your new to this and cant do it based off of text. Really cool man "If you want someone to hold your hand while doing things, should have gone elsewhere... DSMers like to help each other without having to do it for you[/QUOTE]" So how would anyone get where they are if it weren't for training ...did you get practical application training to do your job or did they sit you down and say here do this, by the way your fired if you screw up....find all of your resources online we have no training class for you ...sink or swim. Would you still be working there? Maybe it's mundain and your above people who know less than you or are affraid to mess up their only way to work and to see thier kid. But cool you probably feel better bashing people who openly admit to not knowing shit about cars and are willing to learn. How about martial arts, it's the same ethic, if my Sensei for Kendo,Kenjutsu,Kungfu and Jujutsu was like ok do this I would be dead or severly hurt, but because of a community I am high ranked in every subject and fasset of them because I had plenty of sempai to beat the ever living shit out of the question was just this, "my house or yours". Or should I have read all of the Kata from a book and then went to Japan thinking I was going to actually not get my arm ripped or cut off? Or how about leaving boot camp for the Marine corp. as a E3... I did have someone over my shoulder telling me (yelling at me ) what to do and how to do it and I listened and did and learned.

 

[zeekster777]

wow story time

 

[OgamiGST]

wow story time

I saw you guys put up some VLSDs up for sale ...are you trying to tempt me

 

[Zefal151]

Wasn't trying to be rude at all. So if that's how it came across, i apologize...

did you get practical application training to do your job or did they sit you down and say here do this, by the way your fired if you screw up....find all of your resources online we have no training class for you ...sink or swim. Would you still be working there? Maybe it's mundane and your above people who know less than you or are afraid to mess up their only way to work and to see their kid.

As for my job, Gufi can attest for this... They sat us down, said here, play with it and read the directions, give us feedback on the directions and see whats wrong. Then we got moved to where were testing stuff... They gave us directions, and said here you go. Our boss doesn't look over our shoulders holding our hands.... we ask a simple question, she explains it, we go about our job... if its something really worth teaching by hand, and unable to be learned from just talking, then they show us... We do our research, we do all our work, we ask when we get stuck, we understand what we did wrong, we go back to working. And no, we had no online training courses for what were doing, just simple steps, and lately we have been writing the steps ourselves....

But cool you probably feel better bashing people who openly admit to not knowing shit about cars and are willing to learn.

I openly admited that i knew nothing of mechanics, I am an IT guy. I admit i dont know a whole lot about cars, but most of everything i know is from reading forums and doing things myself. Occasionally i have received help from others that I didn't know how to do, but I more asked how it was done then "hey can you come over and help me?" I have more then a few times offered to come over to other peoples places to help them with stuff, as well as some have called me. Kris helped me with a full head rebuild, I asked him for his help and we came to an agreement on when and how to do it. I was over there helping him as much as I could learning all I could. ( Until i got sick on that Sun, in which Kris and Ed did quite a bit of work while i was throwing up in his bushes ) Corey helped me with my suspension, because we talked about it prior. I was supposed to go over to Gufi's house and do it there, until his wife surprised him with a Disneyland trip for the family.

How about martial arts, it's the same ethic, if my Sensei for Kendo, Kenjutsu, Kungfu and Jujutsu was like ok do this I would be dead or severly hurt, but because of a community I am high ranked in every subject and fasset of them because I had plenty of sempai to beat the ever living shit out of the question was just this, "my house or yours". Or should I have read all of the Kata from a book and then went to Japan thinking I was going to actually not get my arm ripped or cut off?

As for martial arts, technically you went to "school" for what you know, so yes, they show you and drill it into you, so you will know. That's what a "school" does. If they don't, then they are wasting your money. I understand that you had group mates and teachers that would help out when you asked, but you were all learning the same thing in a school environment. So the comparison of martial arts to the comparison of needing assistance with a car is a little mis-construed and out of context.

If you were going to UTI and asked them to come over and give you a hand, you probably would receive help.

Just my .02

 

[OgamiGST]

Wasn't trying to be rude at all. So if that's how it came across, i apologize...



As for my job, Gufi can attest for this... They sat us down, said here, play with it and read the directions, give us feedback on the directions and see whats wrong. Then we got moved to where were testing stuff... They gave us directions, and said here you go. Our boss doesn't look over our shoulders holding our hands.... we ask a simple question, she explains it, we go about our job... if its something really worth teaching by hand, and unable to be learned from just talking, then they show us... We do our research, we do all our work, we ask when we get stuck, we understand what we did wrong, we go back to working. And no, we had no online training courses for what were doing, just simple steps, and lately we have been writing the steps ourselves....



I openly admited that i knew nothing of mechanics, I am an IT guy. I admit i dont know a whole lot about cars, but most of everything i know is from reading forums and doing things myself. Occasionally i have received help from others that I didn't know how to do, but I more asked how it was done then "hey can you come over and help me?" I have more then a few times offered to come over to other peoples places to help them with stuff, as well as some have called me. Kris helped me with a full head rebuild, I asked him for his help and we came to an agreement on when and how to do it. I was over there helping him as much as I could learning all I could. Corey helped me with my suspension, because we talked about it prior. I was supposed to go over to Gufi's house and do it there, until his wife surprised him with a Disneyland trip for the family.




As for martial arts, technically you went to "school" for what you know, so yes, they show you and drill it into you, so you will know. That's what a "school" does. If they don't, then they are wasting your money. I understand that you had group mates and teachers that would help out when you asked, but you were all learning the same thing in a school environment. So the comparison of martial arts to the comparison of needing assistance with a car is a little mis-construed and out of context.

If you were going to UTI and asked them to come over and give you a hand, you probably would receive help.

Just my .02

well thank you for clearing that up, I did recieve a lot of training in school yes but I learned way more out of class by pushing myself to learn more, I would never have had the guts to move up if they didn't help me during the off time getting ready for compertitions (drag racing) it's all the same beast you risking something if not practiced correctly. But I get your point

 

[gufi]

ah yes totally true with the tuning... I did sit and actually read a ton of stuff and applied a lot of it. Did the turbo swap the injectors and a whole bunch of other stuff, but it just wasn't very fun doing it alone. So what if I wanted to hang out with people and learn isn't that what having a hobby is all about hanging with friends sharing ideas and going over to there house or them coming over for some beers and cars... I do like to hold hands and have stuff SHOWN to me not done for me, I have asked plenty of times on the forum to hang out and get taught. But it was just kind of pushed away and treated like eh this guy wants free shit or whatever....Kris helped and taught me alot and I value his friendship a bunch but it did make me aware of how we are all not in the same boat, also my wife doesn't even want to get on the forum because she feels like she will just be thought of as another chick that doesn't know anything. This is based off of the lack of comrodery we have. Take a look a zilvia.net and a few other 240/nismo forums they hang out and have car build days no charge just beer and BBQ. So if I'm out casted because of my choice to get a car I've always wanted ...so be it.

unsure where that came out of my response but ok =).

I was just randomly stating stuff. if you wanted to learn... its a possibility you were asking the wrong questions... or the wrong people? I have helped Chris multiple times, i'm the one that helped him put his wideband in and wire it up to the dsmlink, as well as get him up and running ( and out of my garage ).

I dont judge on different cars ( unless it's a honda =P ) because I havn't had the same type of car twice in a row, every one of them left me wanting more ( more was subjective to time in life , such as now i want this car gone for an evo with more people space and a up to date interior ).

if i could have made the trade you just did, i would have too, inline 6 turbo RWD? give me a break, dsm's are fun, but not that fun.