ANY Big power with MAFT blow though

[suicidal2af]

A bit OT, but what is the difference between a blowthrough and drawthrough setup?

I haven't been able to find this info ANYWHERE.

 

[98eclipseRS]

Let me break it down for you. As of right nowm, I have a 1g ecu and 1g harness. I am running a 2g MAS in my car, hence the 1g ecu, 2g mas combo

The MAFT plugs into the stock MAF plug, for which I now have a @ G MAF PLUG intead on a 1g, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 1G ECU AND HARNESS. Is this coming though now?


I have heard people having problems with this, I cannot see why, but I have heard this more than a few times, this is why I ask.

yes, this makes sense the way you worded it last time made it very confusing. Anyway according to hal the new version can suport both ecu's, so find out if it does and if not just swap the plug.

A bit OT, but what is the difference between a blowthrough and drawthrough setup?

I haven't been able to find this info ANYWHERE.

draw through = maf before turbo(you are drawing air in through the maf)
blow through = maf after the turbo(you are blowing air through the maf.)

 

[kpt4321]

Let me break it down for you. As of right nowm, I have a 1g ecu and 1g harness. I am running a 2g MAS in my car, hence the 1g ecu, 2g mas combo

The MAFT plugs into the stock MAF plug, for which I now have a @ G MAF PLUG intead on a 1g, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 1G ECU AND HARNESS. Is this coming though now?

You have 2 choices:

Hook the 1g MAF plug back up, and run a 1g MAFT, set up for a 1g MAF.

OR

Keep the 2g MAF plug, run a 2g MAFT, and set it up for a 1g MAF.

The 2g and 1g MAFT have the same chip, and you just select the different MAF curves through the switches on the front. You want to run it in 1g mode regardless, so the 1g/2g versions are simply to differentiate the plug style.

 

[14.5 drift]

would there be any gains in doing a blow through with the stocker maf?

 

[bastarddsm]

Um, no i won't work in that manner

 

[unior]

A certain FWD A/T just ran 9's on a 3.5" blow thru and DSMLink

if your thinking kiggly - he is M/T now

 

[Hal]

if your thinking kiggly - he is M/T now

oops

My mistake... AWD, but A/T

Hal

 

[Blaine B]

There is a different car.
AWD Auto that runs 9's.
DSM Link and MAFT.

 

[unior]

hehe

i just saw 9's and A/T in the same sentence and automatically had flashbacks of watching kiggly run at the shootout

 

[coltboostin]

would there be any gains in doing a blow through with the stocker maf?

YEs, a local guy did it. Car ran fine, but it was a MESS of couplers and adapters, not worth it in he end.

 

[98eclipseRS]

YEs, a local guy did it. Car ran fine, but it was a MESS of couplers and adapters, not worth it in he end.

you cannot run the stock maf in a blow through configuration, it was not ment to read in a speed density matter. It reads airlfow by measuring the amount of vortex's created by air being sucked in through the filter(simple way of putting it) there is no way to run the stock maf in a blow through on the stock ecu or without modifying the maf in some way.

 

[DaveSM]

Do you even know what speed density means? Doesn't sound like it.

Sounds like it could work, as the previous poster mentioned somebody doing this. The density of the air may affect the creation of the karmen vortexes though, and also the MAF will give the computer funny readings for the barometric pressure. All in all its possible, but the only benefit would be the reduction of boost leaks causing problems. Not worth it overall I'd say.

 

[turbotalon92]

I made 482whp with the 3" MAFT with a blow through setup. I used only the translator to tune and got it real close. Check out my dyno in my gallery.

Best reason for blow through is to get rid of tuning issues if you have leaks. You need to fix the leaks, but at least your ECU see's what is really going into the combustion chamber in the meantime. Unless you have a leak at the TB elbow or shaft seals, then it still will cause rich conditions. Also it's great when a intercooler pipe blows and you can still drive NA, no more pulling over on the side of the road.

 

[coltboostin]

Cool, loks like the jury is out.

On a side note, I can not believe you made that much power on that double pass stocker monster intercooler, it must have added some lag! Judging by you dyno chart, it looks like you hit full boost @ 5000rpms or a little above.

 

[turbotalon92]

Cool, loks like the jury is out.

On a side note, I can not believe you made that much power on that double pass stocker monster intercooler, it must have added some lag! Judging by you dyno chart, it looks like you hit full boost @ 5000rpms or a little above.

I actually had the spearco in the newer photos when I dynoed. But yes, that turbo/ported head and SMIM was screaming lag. 5000-9000rpm is plenty of a power range though.

 

[coltboostin]

notice less lag with the good core on their?

 

[turbotalon92]

No, the spool up was the same with both cores. The actual square inches inside the spearco was greater (thicker, 3.5") and it gave me more room to play with intercooler piping, I needed to redo the piping for the MAFT. All around it was a good idea as I made money by selling the old setup with pipes and bought the new setup with larger piping and room to play for less.