2G 6 bolt swap into a 2g multiple cyl misfire code

[boostedgst2984]

I have had my 6bolt in my 2g for almost a year now. But i still can figure out how to get rid of the dam multiple cyl misfire code. but i read soemthing on RRE's website. That u can use that 1g CAS with the black plastic cover to eliminate that code. Is that possible, or does anyone have any suggestions on how to get rid of it. Its more of a nusence than anything.

 

[cait sith]

It's a pain in the butt, but you can pull the throttle position sensor. That will make the misfire code go away, but create another problem of having no TPS, but that's not such a big deal compared to the Misfire code.

Your best bet really is to go stand-alone fuel system like DSMlink, and you might even have an EPROM ecu with your '95...

 

[95undrpsi]

I hear that the only way to go is dsmlink or aem ems every thing else dosen't work that great. I going with dsmlink when I do my swap this month.

 

[Turbo Monk3y]

yeah when i did my 6bolt swap i had already bought dsmlink just for the fact that 1. its a great tuning tool and 2. i wouldnt have to worry about that damn cel code .. Its been running flawlessly with no codes thrown EVER... i highly recommend dsmlink, you won't be disappointed.

 

[destruckeclipse]

I just have a question. Do most swaps throw codes? And would the DSMlink cause you to fail smog?

 

[Bastard1g]

Any downsides of the random misfire code besides the light? Like pulled timing or anything? I have a check engine light on but I also have a block off egr plate, no rear o2, no evap canister and so on. I can deal with a cel but if it is hurting performance then I need to stop it.

 

[Bastard1g]

It's a pain in the butt, but you can pull the throttle position sensor. That will make the misfire code go away, but create another problem of having no TPS, but that's not such a big deal compared to the Misfire code.

Your best bet really is to go stand-alone fuel system like DSMlink, and you might even have an EPROM ecu with your '95...

Is it better to drive with with no tps than having the code? What does the ecu do when it sees a random misfire code?

 

[DSMfânâtic]

http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/article_1g2g.htm

Way down at the bottom of that article is a solution to "Random Misfire CEL's"

Good Luck

 

[boostedgst2984]

when i get the cel for the random misfire code. The car basically goes into limp mode. It feels like its only running on 2 cyls. Huge hesitation. Will removing the tps hurt performance??

Thanks

 

[95GSXBLUR]

I just have a question. Do most swaps throw codes? And would the DSMlink cause you to fail smog?

shouldn't, if done properly.. and DSMLINK won't cause you to fail smog, tuning might, but if you're burning fuel better, actually you should have less smog. carbon-monoxide is mostly from UNburned fuel.

dsmlink=good.

 

[boostedgst2984]

im gonna try that mod from magnus motorsports and see how that goes. I just hate that dam ecu code. I have another ? i cant get my car to pull full vacum at idle. Ive tried everything and looked everywhere. Anyone knwo what else to try.

 

[cait sith]

when i get the cel for the random misfire code. The car basically goes into limp mode. It feels like its only running on 2 cyls. Huge hesitation. Will removing the tps hurt performance??

Thanks

Pulling the TPS will throw a code, but it won't be in limp mode, or even hurt anything. I drove my car for about 4 months with a pulled TPS and everything is just ducky still.

 

[rdrkt]

Just recently we did a 6 bolt swap into my mom's 97. I used a link because I didn't want to deal with the misfire issue. Because let me tell you if you are driving along and that code hits you are going to be in a world of hurt.

However my buddy used the 97 ECU in my mom's car in another 6 bolt swap and it worked fine. If you don't have the $$ for a 95 eprom see if you can find a 97. I sold mine for 100 bucks.

 

[evolvingGS-t]

Here's a question. People talk about "DSMLink" and "EPROM", what are the diffences, if any? I have never dealt with ECU's not do I intend to. I like to stay "mechanical" when it comes to cars.

Thanks.

 

[sLoGSX]

Here's a question. People talk about "DSMLink" and "EPROM", what are the diffences, if any? I have never dealt with ECU's not do I intend to. I like to stay "mechanical" when it comes to cars.

Thanks.

DSMLink is a program that is used for tuning of DSM's. In order to use DSMLink, you must have an EPROM ECU. For 2g's, this ECU was only found in 1995 models. The EPROM ECU is modified (by DSMLink) so that you can tune through the use of a laptop hooked into your OBDII plug on your car... This is the basic concept. Check out the DSMLink website for a more in detail explanation of how it works www.dsmlink.com

I personally have DSMLink and can say that it is a very valuable tuning device and is relatively easy to learn. Hope this helps

P.S. With DSM's it's never simply mechanical. You will HAVE to get into some sort of electronics to ever get full potential out of these beasts

 

[Bastard1g]

Is there anyway to avoid the cel for the rear 02 sensor and the egr valve being blocked off?

 

[cait sith]

Just recently we did a 6 bolt swap into my mom's 97. I used a link because I didn't want to deal with the misfire issue. Because let me tell you if you are driving along and that code hits you are going to be in a world of hurt.

However my buddy used the 97 ECU in my mom's car in another 6 bolt swap and it worked fine. If you don't have the $$ for a 95 eprom see if you can find a 97. I sold mine for 100 bucks.

My 1997 had issues with my 6-bolt swap. I think it's more of an issue of how old the cam angle sensor is, the newer the CAS, the more likely the 2G ECU will "deal with it".

My old school Galant VR4 CAS wasn't pumping out happy information to my 1997 ECU enough, I suppose.

 

[boostedgst2984]

well looks like im gonna try that mangus motorsports mod tomorrow to see if that works. If not im going to get dsmlink.

Thanks guys for ur info

 

[myblack98gst]

why is this board so stuck on the most expensive part is the only fix...

do the POT mod it will work JUST fine and cost $3 vs. $800+ (e-prom, DSMlink, socket job, laptop)

I did it to mine and did not have anyproblems at all for the 9 months it was on there.
POT mod = magnus mod

Pulling the TPS is not very smart either.. the computer does judge the timing partly on where the TPS is. and it also has a idle switch buit into it that tlls the ECU when the throttle is closed so it can adjust accordingly (ie. decel fuel cut)..

 

[evolvingGS-t]

Thanks SloGSX. Clearifies everything!

And yes you're right, I do have to know something electrical to know mechanical.

Now, the 1995 ECU that has the EPROM will have an "E" on the sticker that's on the ECU right? Or am I seeing things? Or just pop it open and check for a "chip" in the bottom left corner?

 

[gixrman]

Read the DSMLink page will answer all your questions
Here http://www.dsmlink.com/faq.html#latemodel

 

[Bastard1g]

I still have not gotten an answer about the random misfire code. Anyone ever logged thier car while the random misfire code was coming up? Pulled timing? No advanced timing? I wana know whats going on but I dont have a logger yet, funds restricted.

 

[GsT117]

I need to know from all you 6bolt swappers out there. Did you guys use a mounting kit in order to do the swap or did it just fit right in. I am about to put the yellow injector vr-4 galant motor into my 2G. So i was wondering was it a pain to do it or was it simple? Please get back to me soon, I am gonna be doin the swap within the next week when my motor arrives.
Thanks to all who respond

 

[Bastard1g]

Some modifications are needed with the swap, luckily for you these swaps are getting more and more popular and you can search to find anything. I have posted alot on this board asking questions. You will more than likely find a page full of threads that I started. If you cant find anything in the search, post on here or ask me. I have my 6 bolt swap running now and I still have a few problems to iron out but no biggie.

 

[GsT117]

Some modifications are needed with the swap, luckily for you these swaps are getting more and more popular and you can search to find anything. I have posted alot on this board asking questions. You will more than likely find a page full of threads that I started. If you cant find anything in the search, post on here or ask me. I have my 6 bolt swap running now and I still have a few problems to iron out but no biggie.

I still was not able to find out any answers to my questions. I already had 2 previous posted threads in a different section but still people tell me the same thing. The "Thread has been talked about already. Look for the thread." Why can't people just say a simple yes or no question. Does it or does it not need a mounting kit? I appreciate your reply but ur telling me the same thing the other people tell me. It needs a couple of modifications but thats not what I need to know. I need to know whether or not it actually directly fits into the engine bay or do I need to get a mounting kit in order for it to go in. Did you need a mounting kit to put it right on? or did it just go right in?? Please just tell me what is needed for the swap. I am going crazy lookin for this answer

Thanks for the input though and also don't take this as an insult because i am just frustrated because people don't help me, they just tell me its been talked about and to find it in the forums.