6 Bolt Block Build should i go stock or just upgrade right away?

[L2RTSiAWD]

Back in the day, people also used VPCs and not MAFTs, DSMlinks, stand-alones..... I'd think with the tuning options that are available today, there would be alot more potential to put a turbo such as a 50 trim into the 10s. Apparently not, eh?

Believe me I agree with you, I'm not trying to argue. I think more 50-trims could be in the 10's.

 

[Steve93Talon]

Exactly. I'm not knocking the 50 trim, rather the fact that so many people think of it as a "12 second bolt-on turbo". Nobody's hardcore anymore, they just go with the flavor o' the week turbo, huge injectors and FMIC, sissy boost, conservative tuning, and then act all impressed with themselves when they run 12.60s. Guess what? I did that on a small 16g, 450s, ans a stock SMIC

 

[SpoOLxExO]

I completely understood your context, and I have to say that was the funniest shit I've read in a while.

All too true about what you just said with 50-trim owners, or To4b owners for that matter!

 

[yo2001]

All too true about what you just said with 50-trim owners, or To4b owners for that matter!

I'm going to take that personally.

 

[BluemeanieTSi]

Exactly. I'm not knocking the 50 trim, rather the fact that so many people think of it as a "12 second bolt-on turbo". Nobody's hardcore anymore, they just go with the flavor o' the week turbo, huge injectors and FMIC, sissy boost, conservative tuning, and then act all impressed with themselves when they run 12.60s. Guess what? I did that on a small 16g, 450s, ans a stock SMIC

big turbos big boost - go big or go home and quit bitching about blowin head gaskets while you're there (that comment isn't directed towards anyone it's a saying we have aorund here)

 

[SpoOLxExO]

I'm going to take that personally.

Good for you.

 

[4g63tsiawd]

I'm in the same boat I've got my engine completly apart, I wa going to just rebuild it with factory pistons rods and rings, but I found that it isn't that expensive to get the block bored. So now I'm thinking of going weisco/eagle, my goal is 400hp to the wheels. I went threw the 1/4 list and seen just about everyone that is running good numbers has built internals. So I don't know what to do, built the block or spend money in other places.

 

[SpoOLxExO]

This is why Tuners has gone to hell.

A STOCK 6-bolt engine will hold 550 HP, period.

If you suck at tuning, Don't have enoough fuel, your wiring harness catches fire, or the turbo creeps to a silly boost number, yes you will blow your engine.

But shit, hundreds of 6-bolt going 10's, and thousands going 11's.

This question has been asked a million times before...

www.vfaq.com <-----soak all of that info and you wouldn't have to ask dumb questions, that get people arguing back and forth like They engineered the 4g63 or something.

Didn't you read anything off the first page?

*Hint- the Stock 6-bolt is good enough for 90% of DSMers goals, buy other stuff!!!

 

[4g63tsiawd]

of coarse I read the first page, there are mixed feelings about the subject. I just don't see the stock internals holding up that long at the higer hp levels, thats why I'm interested in other peoples opinions. My dsm isn't a everyday driver, its going to be a track car so its going to be abused and I don't want it to strand me 100 miles away(no trailer). So since I have it tore down I was thinking of stronger internal.

 

[dsmawdturbo]

id say why not beef it up a little bit. Going over kill in my opinon in protecting your investment isn't a waste. That way you have a bigger margin of error to mess up. Not everyones a super tuner at first or ever. If you have the engine still in the car though don't waste the time... just mod till it blows.