$3000 Budget

[mycarhatesme]

Hi I have a 99 gsx. It's got some little stuff right now ( full 3 inch, intake, fmic, tubular manifold, b&m short shifter, bov, manula boost controller, boost gauge, and i think that's it.) It's not much but it's ok for right now. I was originally planning on putting about 7 or 8k into it but i am so sick of waiting. I have about 3k right now, my goal with the 8k was for around 5-600 reliable whp. But i just want to get something on the car. So my question is can i get in the neighborhood of say 400-450whp on this car reliablyy or even a tad unreliably. I don't want a 16g or any of those because i'm gona be stroking in a year or less. So i want a turbo that's gona be able to go with that but also be fun right now. I was thinking like dual ball bearing. but i'm new and i've been thinking about this one forever so any help anyone can ofer would be amazing.

 

[larsenracing]

you could go with some 650 injectors, dsm link, walboro 255 fuel pump, fpr, and something like a fp 50 trim turbo or something larger. good luck

 

[mycarhatesme]

Awesome, thanks. What kind of power do you think that would make, and also i was thinking about cams too. Are they worth it right now or not really. If so recommendations would be appreciated. OOo also i have the greddy type s bov which i have been told leaks boost above 15 psi, which i am above slightly, i'm looking at hks ssq does that bolt on or do i need something special.

 

[boostdog]

16g 500$ ,dsm link and laptop +or- 750$, 1g BOV 75$, 500cc injectors 300$, act 2600 400$, wideband gauge 250$, hard pipes 200$ if you used the factory to the FMIC, fuel pump and fpr 300$ so far thats 2775 so you have some left to buy beer with! of course these are just aproximate dollar values as well.

I would say power wise about 350 and it will be reliable safe fun.

Of course there are other things that you could change.... intsead of the 16g find a good used 14b and use the rest for a
1g head.

 

[mycarhatesme]

ok so it's looking like this as of now. DSM link, Fuel pump, FPR, 650's, hks bov, an unknown clutch, and this turbo http://www.importevolution.com/product_info.php?cPath=111_113&products_id=2928

 

[boostdog]

That turbo looks nice, but i don't think you are ready to jump to something like that as of yet. I would use your 3k to get you some performance now that you can build on. just choose pieces that are reliable and inexpensive(not cheap) inexpensive that you can grow with. The 14b is highly underrated by most it is a very very good turbo that can make alot of power if given the chance.

 

[boostdog]

And didn't you post about your radiator needing to be replaced as well? I think you need to invest in some good manuals as well in order to save $ on labor.

 

[larsenracing]

That turbo looks good and should get you what you want for numbers. I have the hks ssqv and i love it. Cams may be good but probably unneeded untill you are around 375whp. Also like boostdog said you may want a FMIC and ACT 2600 clutch.

 

[mycarhatesme]

Thanks for all the information. I do have a greddy front mount kit, w/ hardpipes. And i am getting the act 2600, my clutch won't hold the power i have now. i really need all the fuel stuff because my car is hardly running. ALso when would it make sense for me to get the stroker kit. becausei guess i could afford it after the fuel stuff, but it probly makes zero sense on my stock turbo which may be going. I'm so bored with this car right now i almost sold it.

 

[herostar]

I say skip the 16g if you're wanting to easily make 350whp. A 16g will make 350hp, but it is about maxed out there... I'd go for a turbo that flows more around 50 lb/min. I'd also go with 720cc injectors if you're getting dsmlink, then you won't have to worry about fuel. It's better to buy injectors once... trust me. In regards to the stroker kit, I have one and love it, but the advice I give everyone is to not do it just to have a stroker. My whole engine was dead so I had to buy new internal parts anyways, so it only cost me about 300 dollars more (for the crankshaft) to go the stroker route. If you're 2.0 is running well I'd hold off on the internals until your car is making more power. People have repeatedly gone to 400hp on stock internals. Also don't forget about all the little things... gaskets, oil/water lines, larger intake pipe, clamps, etc. all add up really fast. If I were in your shoes I'd get the DSMLink/fuel pump/injectors/FPR first and get good at tuning it, then go for the bigger turbo.

Good luck and keep us updated!!!

 

[mycarhatesme]

Thanks, i like that. What kind of gaskets and lines am i gona be needing.

 

[boostdog]

a stroker kit is a ways down the road..don't put the cart ahead of the horse.

 

[larsenracing]

To what herostar said you may want to get the turbo whale you have the money and are going to be doing all the work. If you are new to tuning you may want to have someone or a shop help you out for a while just to be on the safe side.

 

[mycarhatesme]

Yea, i have a tuner in mind. Innovative Tunning in buffalo ny. I've talked to him a bunch of times and seems to really know what he's talking about. He's the guy who gave me a huge list of stuff i needed for like 8k. But i just can't wait. I need some speed now. So just to get this straight. Dsm link, FP, FPR, Injectors, a clutch, the turbo i posted, what else do i need. anything in terms of gaskets, lines, new intake pipe, will i need to mod my intercooler pipes at all. i just need to kow what kind of work/moneyy is gona be involved.

 

[57TrimGST]

Get an ACT2600!!

 

[mycarhatesme]

Am i going to need a MAF

 

[larsenracing]

If your venting.

 

[57TrimGST]

Unless you get a VPC or the like, If you are venting. Which would be a waste, Just to vent....

 

[mycarhatesme]

Ok....now by venting do you mean my car makes the blow off sound and does not recirculate. And if so, how do i make a greddy type s not vent. thanks haha i'm slightly stupid

 

[dalatinromeo]

Ok....now by venting do you mean my car makes the blow off sound and does not recirculate. And if so, how do i make a greddy type s not vent. thanks haha i'm slightly stupid

A greddy type-s is designed to be recirculate easily. Just attach the dump tube to its valve. The same way your stock bov recirculates is the same way the greddy type-s recirculates. You just have to attach the end of tube that is coming from intake to your greddy type-s and you are recirculating.

Yes you should only vent if you are doing it correctly w/ a GM MAF and MAFT. Venting is good if done correctly. Don't vent incorrectly, you will run into a whole punch of problems.

Oh yeah, the greddy type-s starts to leak in the 25+ psi range not 15+psi. I had a greddy type-s on my old 2g talon. No problems after 15+ psi, most people report when you reach 25+psi. I would go with the HKS SSQV a great BOV.

Hope this helps a bit. Stay boostin

 

[dalatinromeo]

now by venting do you mean my car makes the blow off sound and does not recirculate.

Oh yes to that answer, but if you are going to vent you are going to need a GM MAF + MAFT.

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

I hate to say it, but there is no such thing as RELIABLE 5-600 hp on a DSM. When you put down triple the stock HP reliability is out the window.

 

[mycarhatesme]

Hey, a guy can dream. haha thanks for the help everyone i think i'm gona buy some stuff today. What kind of lines and gaskets am i going to need and also will any of those come with the turbo or is there a good kit out there i can buy that has everything or close to it.

 

[dalatinromeo]

Hey, a guy can dream. haha thanks for the help everyone i think i'm gona buy some stuff today. What kind of lines and gaskets am i going to need and also will any of those come with the turbo or is there a good kit out there i can buy that has everything or close to it.

I can't think of any kits off hand; besides the kits SBR and FP make for the 16G. But you stated you did not want a 16g. I would say just search around throught the vendors, and see who sells everything you are looking for at a reasonable price. Once you find them send them an email to see, if you can get some sort of discount being that you purchased a couple of items at once from them.

 

[herostar]

Lines:
Oil Feed
Oil Drain
Water Feed/Drain (Only on BB turbos)

Gaskets:
Oil Drain (2)
7cm Turbo Inlet
Turbo/O2 Housing

Other Possible Parts:
Turbo to Manifold Bolts
Water Line Plugging Bolts (Again... maybe.)
Intake Pipe
Oil Drain Line Bolts
Downpipe/O2 Housing Gasket
Coolant
Oil
Oil Filter