2nd Generation Eclipse System set-up?

[mitclipsegs96]

Ok I have a 96 Eclipse GS
I am planning on putting 2 12" Memphis and 1 15" Memphis in the back but trying to figure out a way to do it. I'm going to learn to to fiberglass because that is a cleaner set up to me.
Anyone have pictures of their set up or someone else. Looking for ideas.
Thanks
oh and also I am keeping the back seat for my friends with no legs so keep that in mind.

 

[richard33]

That's gonna be loud.

 

[DSM nOOb]

 

[SD_TSI]

Here's my trunk. Sorry for the cell phone picture. It is one 10" Boston Acoustics subwoofer powered by the Alpine amplifier, the Hertz amplifier is for my front 6.5's. There are two faceplates that sit on top of the subwoofer box (one black suede, and the purple vinyl) that allow for easy access to all the equipment. This was the only efficient method I could decide would cleanly hide the mess underneath.

This setup on the 500 watts did 138.9db, so its fairly loud. Loud enough to flex my back window a bit, so maybe you don't necessarily need the 15, just an idea. Sorry for all the jargon, here's the pic:

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[2GbTalonGuy]

I would put the 15 in the middle and the tho 12's at the sides in a concave enclosure facing the rear of the vehicle with the amps set in the floor in front of the subs.

 

[420aPJ]

I would do the same as black but relocate the amps to under the driver and passenger seat. Save trunk space and dont have to worry to much about the vibration hurting the amps. Also youre gonna need all the trunk space you can get

 

[Boomdeeze]

Holy jebus. I had 2 12" MTX 9500's and a 5000 watt amp in the back of my Durango and I could bounce a mountain dew bottle a foot off the top of my roof. I can't image those in a little DSM. Don't you think thats a little over kill?

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Holy jebus. I had 2 12" MTX 9500's and a 5000 watt amp in the back of my Durango and I could bounce a mountain dew bottle a foot off the top of my roof. I can't image those in a little DSM. Don't you think thats a little over kill?

I agree. One 10" or 12" is enough in a small car like this.

 

[AK Maniak]

I had a 12'' P3 Rockford with a 400watt rockford 2 channel amp powering that and it rattled my rear view mirror completely off and cracked my windshield. IMO there is no need for 2 12's and 1 15 in a DSM.

 

[Boomdeeze]

If you happen to think that DSM's fall apart now, wait till you put that system is in. You will be losing a new part every time you drive it. That would be way too much rattling going on in that little of a car.

 

[WickedBlk95GSX]

I had two audiobahn 10s and 600 watt amp, they rattled my spoiler off while driving down the road, yeah it was pretty embarrassing

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

I had two audiobahn 10s and 600 watt amp, they rattled my spoiler off while driving down the road, yeah it was pretty embarrassing

How did you not see or hear or notice your spoiler was loose? That couldn't have happened in a day.

 

[knochgoon24]

I guess you don't really care about mid-tones or treble sounds.

What are you running for an alternator?

 

[Tanro]

You should sell you DSM and get something like a crown vic. You could probably fit at least 4 15"s back there. Maybe 6.

Plus you know you cant paint cartoon characters on it and put some huge ass chromies on it.

On a more serious note, you really only need 1 12" at most in an eclipse. You just need a quality box, and enough power.

 

[Dr Funkenstein]

Believe me when I say that you don't need anything other than one 10" or 12" in an Eclipse. Its a small hatchback. Anything more and you won't even be able to hear the speakers over the bass.

 

[white92talontsi]

Dont mix sub sizes.

Wanna see 2 of the Best sub's ever made in a mitsubishi Eclipse? 2 18's at that??

YouTube - SS Audio's LMS 18's Playing Throw It Up Screwed
YouTube - The 18s are finally in Bigger and Better Flex
YouTube - bass i love you on my 18" TC Sounds LMS Drivers
YouTube - Two 18inch Tc sound subs
YouTube - ElJaco119's version of walk it out finishing my windshield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4elTmRgSLA&feature=related

 

[ramsack]

I've never understood the point of too much of one frequency range to make someone deaf, and totally ruin music. But damn! That's a new way to turn glass into liquid, instead of heat, behold resonance!

 

[white92talontsi]

I had a 12'' P3 Rockford with a 400watt rockford 2 channel amp powering that and it rattled my rear view mirror completely off and cracked my windshield. IMO there is no need for 2 12's and 1 15 in a DSM.

That is complete and utter BS. Do you understand the Pressure level that it take's to crack a windshield?? Look at the video's I posted. It takes that kind of power and SPL to bust a windshield.

Believe me when I say that you don't need anything other than one 10" or 12" in an Eclipse. Its a small hatchback. Anything more and you won't even be able to hear the speakers over the bass.

If the system is setup properly then you will hear the rest of the speakers just fine no matter how much bass there is.

 

[ramsack]

It doesn't take wattage, it takes efficiency An efficient speaker will deliver the same dB with lower wattage, and more likely a more accurate representation of the original sound, than some 8,000 gigawatt system. All it takes is hitting the right frequency to "liquefy" a solid and break down its crystal structure to shatter, NOT power so much.

Gotta love hearing loss, no wonder why these younger generations text message instead of talking, because they can't.

 

[white92talontsi]

It doesn't take wattage, it takes efficiency An efficient speaker will deliver the same dB with lower wattage, and more likely a more accurate representation of the original sound, than some 8,000 gigawatt system. All it takes is hitting the right frequency to "liquefy" a solid and break down its crystal structure to shatter, NOT power so much.

Gotta love hearing loss, no wonder why these younger generations text message instead of talking, because they can't.

Not trying to be a dick here but I have been building car audio setups for years. I have been in bass race competitions for years. There is no subwoofer on earth that will bust a windshield with 400 watts no matter how efficient the speaker may be.

It take's a shit load of power and a shit load of cone area to create enough of a pressure level to be able to bust a front windshield.

 

[ramsack]

No offense but the name of that game is wattage, air movement, and decibels. The videos posted show plenty of air movement. That is what busted the windshield, more than harmonics. The same cracks can be accomplished at a MUCH lower wattage with a MUCH more efficient speaker, AND a MUCH lower decibel level. All it takes is finding that sweet spot frequency. Watts is an electrical unit, not a sound loudness unit.

Huge subs are like a hammer, they can bust a piece of glass with one swing. One can also cause the same piece of glass to shatter instantly by finding the sweet spot frequency with very little energy, more like a pencil tapping it. Solids show liquid properties when they break down from harmonics. This is why the whole earth does not shake from an earthquake, yet you can literally see waves travel throughout the earth's crust (solid rock) with the naked eye if the magnitude is great enough.

 

[white92talontsi]

No offense but the name of that game is wattage, air movement, and decibels. The videos posted show plenty of air movement. That is what busted the windshield, more than harmonics. The same cracks can be accomplished at a MUCH lower wattage with a MUCH more efficient speaker, AND a MUCH lower decibel level. All it takes is finding that sweet spot frequency. Watts is an electrical unit, not a sound loudness unit.

Huge subs are like a hammer, they can bust a piece of glass with one swing. One can also cause the same piece of glass to shatter instantly by finding the sweet spot frequency with very little energy, more like a pencil tapping it. Solids show liquid properties when they break down from harmonics. This is why the whole earth does not shake from an earthquake, yet you can literally see waves travel throughout the earth's crust (solid rock) with the naked eye if the magnitude is great enough.

Yes and I was arguing the fact that the other posted and said that he broke his windshield with a 12 and 400 watts.

Also what you are talking about is something totally different. What you are describing is called the Resonant Frequency.

The resonant frequency for glass is in the 800-1500hz range, far beyond what a subwoofer reproduces, Once again it's not going to happen with a sub woofer.

If you can match the resonant frequency of the glass then you can bust it, but not with a subwoofer.


i dont need a explanation of what a watt is. wow.

 

[ramsack]

There is no set assumed frequency at which something resonates. The larger the object the lower the frequency it will resonate at. So a windshield is going to be way different than a wine glass. Also, things will resonate at halves down and multiples up from that resonant frequency.

 

[white92talontsi]

I don't care how much mathematical equations you bring into the mix, 1 12 and 400 watts will not break a windshield.

I've been doing this shit for far to long. A subwoofer is not going to be able to reproduce a frequency to match the FS on a windshield.

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[Dr Funkenstein]

If the system is setup properly then you will hear the rest of the speakers just fine no matter how much bass there is.

Yeah but a lot people who want to "throw some 18s in this bi***," rarely care about the rest of the setup. I've seen too many people running subs on stock speakers. Upgrade the speakers first then worry about the bass in my opinion.