2G drop in 6 Bolt conversion

[gorf]

Saw this on Ebay.


Title: 4G63 2G Turbo short block Talon Eclipse Mitsubishi DSM

Description
This is a 4G63 turbo short block. Manley rods, Manley pistons, new main and rod bearings, new oil pump, new water pump. This is our custom 6 bolt built for the 2G talons and eclipse turbo's. The block has been redrilled to accept the 7 bolt oil pump. Oil pump has been modified to fit on the 6 bolt block. This allows you to run all your stock sensors, no cutting of wires, direct bolt in. You would not have to worry about any mifire issues, when the 6 bolt is installed into a 2G. The engine also has the balance shafts eliminated. Comes with the 2G motormount installed on the engine, since there is some customizing that needed to be done. All you would have to do is bolt you head and all accessories and your ready to go. Also, all engines are bored to .20 over and blocks have been decked. We never use any cut cranks. Any futher questions, please feel free to contact me at 419-578-4658 Thanks Bill @ showdown motorsports. We do require that you ship us some of your old parts.

This sounds like a great way to get a 6 bolt with little or no reconfiguring or the wiring.
Does anyone know what is involved in "The block has been redrilled to accept the 7 bolt oil pump. Oil pump has been modified to fit on the 6 bolt block. This allows you to run all your stock sensors, no cutting of wires, direct bolt in. You would not have to worry about any misfire issues,"

Has anyone done this? Do you have a write up of what modifications are required?

 

[crimsondragon]

On 6 bolt blocks, in order to drop it in a 2g engine bay, usually the oil pump is grinded down in a certain area to accept the 2g motor mount. In this case, I'm guessing they decided to go the hard way and modify the block to accept the 7 bolt pump instead of modifying the 6 bolt pump to accept 2g motor mount. As for the sensors, cutting of wires and such, I don't think modifying the pump will change the acceptance of sensors. If you want to put a 1g CAS in a 2g, you still have to modify the 2g harness to accept the 1g CAS.

 

[gorf]

But the way I read this, you use the 2g crank angle sensor and the 2g cas.
Are there any advantages to using the 1G CAS?

 

[romeen]

Are there any advantages to using the 1G CAS?

It is adjustable allowing you to advance timing a bit.

 

[ChunkyLover53]

From what I have read, the wiring is not that big of a deal. If you don't want to create a wiring harness yourself, you can just buy the one from RRE that converts it for you.

6 Bolt Motor Install Into a 2G Eclipse

 

[gorf]

OK I decided to give this setup a try.
First question, on a 2g block the water return line for the turbo goes top a banjo bolt on the block under number one freeze plug. The six bolt block does not have this banjo bolt fitting. Where does the water return line go on a six bolt block?

 

[Nicks2319]

OK I decided to give this setup a try.
First question, on a 2g block the water return line for the turbo goes top a banjo bolt on the block under number one freeze plug. The six bolt block does not have this banjo bolt fitting. Where does the water return line go on a six bolt block?

Into the water pipe. 1g and 2g turbo water pipes are different.

And this whole setup, this is the old way to do the 6bolt swap. RRE used to do this before the CAS trick was found. The reason most people don't do it is because it is a bi*** to drill out all the appropriate spots to make it all work.

Also, keep in mind, KarKing has a 6bolt drop in no-modification engine available. They use a different setup to make it all work.

 

[gorf]

Into the water pipe. 1g and 2g turbo water pipes are different.

And this whole setup, this is the old way to do the 6bolt swap. RRE used to do this before the CAS trick was found. The reason most people don't do it is because it is a bi*** to drill out all the appropriate spots to make it all work.

Also, keep in mind, KarKing has a 6bolt drop in no-modification engine available. They use a different setup to make it all work.

Thanks Called Showdown and Bill said that all I have to do is "T" it off of the throttle body.
I'll just update this thread with my progress instead of opening a new one.

 

[All_Boost16G]

Doesn't Karking also make a kit like this?